Is bleed & ignite not worth? both for a build?

With the Sadism support gem, is it worth making a ignite and bleed melee 2 hand build together? If you convert phy to fire damage fully?

Not worth? Worth?

I'm not super vet, so not sure if fire even bleeds, if you fully convert the phys damage. I don't know how that works.


Also how much bleed chance do you really need? 50% enough or need 70%?

& How much ignite chance do I need with avatar of fire, if I'm not going crit. Do I really need 100% ignite chance from the tree, for a non crit ignite build? That seems super stretched, those ignite chance nodes aren't near eachother, huh?

Lastly what about bleed, ignite, & poison build with sadism support? Is triple DoT not worth?

Tho more interested with just Ignite and Bleed only for now. Thanks.

Can't cause bleed if you don't deal physical damage.
Also yes, you'd want 100% chance.

You can't do bleed or poison if you go avatar of fire.
You'd stil want 100% if going ignite with avatar of fire.

You're the man! bravo

Though I guess you could go for elementalist and get bleed nodes and get the ascendancy that all your dmg ignites.

You'd just end up with basically no dmg on either your bleed or ignite and you'd end up spreading your points thin. Also would be a lot of traveling on the tree.

You could also throw in one of the heist daggers that gives any dmg type the chance to poison but you would then need to also get the poison % from somewhere.

It would also need to be attack based.

Edit: even if you could get it somewhat working it would be extremely uncomfortable