Beyond: Let's be real a second....

Specced fully into beyond. Every node.

Ran a t16 100% delirous 130% quant map. Mostly juiced, 2 sextants, 4 gilded scarabs adding extra monsters, metamorph. Plus, the map itself had beyond on it.

I got to level 14 delirium drops, saw waves of beyond monsters pop up in pretty much every single pack.

Not. One. Single. Tainted. Currency. Literally, none. Also no beyond boss, but that's besides the point since that is a much heavier rng.

How is this even a remote possibility? For what they do, the tainted currencies shouldn't be THAT rare. And since you still need to spam them most of the time...you would think I'd get ONE drop in a map that pumps out the same amount of monsters as basically 20 maps combined.

I'm not screaming for showers of it, but there has to be some semblance of sense here in the game design...this kind of drop rate would only make sense if every single outcome of using a tainted currency is guaranteed to be better than the previous use, which it isn't.

its pretty obvious everything's been reigned in and i kind of want to laugh because it seems that personal project turned out to be more comprehensive than they said.

I asked for this stuff to happen but it was supposed to be advertised not smuggled in and definitely not so bad that with all of that juice you get Zero returns.

Yep, I too have the sneaking suspicion that Ruthless plays a definite roll in the downturn of drops in the base game...regardless of what is actually told to us.

It's actually pretty absurd how low the drops have become. I am almost constantly short on regrets, chisels, scours, and glassblowers and I really don't feel like I'm using a LOT of them. And I'm running pretty darn juiced, pretty darn "profitable" content. I didn't even notice it being this bad last league, although it definitely was significantly worse in 3.20 than in 3.19.

Same with map drops: I've got Beach as my favorite map in every available slot. But even if I exclusively run connected maps, with gilded cartographer scarabs, juiced up I drop maybe 1 beach map every 3-4 OTHER maps. That's pretty bad.

The one drop I get more of than ever before this league is Timeless Emblems. When I'm specced into legion, these things drop like goddamn candy. Not sure wtf happened there with balance....breachstones certainly don't drop like that.

That is very possible with sample size of just 1 map. I get rng streaks like that all the time. Sometimes I can go an entire map without spawning a single altar and other times I get 7-8 of them in 1 map.

You gotta look at it over a longer period of time.

That being said, juicing beyond a certain extent seems to be not worth it anymore. I'm doing very low budget juicing with legion scarabs, beyond sextants and deli/legion on tree (basically Palestron's strategy) and its working pretty well so far.

you need the beyond sextant or roll the map with beyond, else you cannot spam beyond when there is no beyond. its bad since you cant specc immediately into it but thats how it is.

otherwise is either some super bad rng or a glitch in the matrix. for example im farming harbingers since i entered t16 maps with chisel alch and rusted scarab every damn map and so far i have 12frac shards and over one hundred ancient orbs. its 1/4th of the amount i got last league and in sanctum i dont think i even used scarabs since i was running for the league mechanic. got like 8-9frac orbs, now i have half one month in...