Enfeeble only 1% phys reductions?

I like to get as tanky as i can so i wanted to try Enfeeble.
Cursed Rare or Unique enemies deal (10-15)% less Damage

But when i equip it, PoB shows me only +1 phys damage reduction
Why is that? Shouldnt it be exactly the 10-15% less damage dealt?
And why no ele damage reduction at all?


My defences
Fire/cold/lightning 90%
Chaos 76%
Physical damage reduction 82% (PoE Hideout) 72% (PoB with Guardian)
Chance to block attack 76%
Chance to block spell 75%
1.4k ES

Edit:
Does the reduced action speed from Temporal Chains also apply to enemies attack speed?
And if so result in less damage incoming?
Im bad at math.
Last edited by LoTharios#3338 on Nov 1, 2022, 5:11:30 PM
Last bumped on Nov 2, 2022, 6:26:51 AM
give POB
https://pastebin.com/jRBgLqhd

Edit:
Phys reduction is 80% because flasks are activated.
And i forgot to check the 1 endurance charge from my ring which works in Hideout but changes nothing in PoB.
I dont get it.
Im bad at math.
Last edited by LoTharios#3338 on Nov 1, 2022, 5:58:58 PM
Your PoB is on "Guardian/Pinnacle Boss." These bosses have 66% less curse effect as one of their mods. So no, you will not get 10-15% less damage from them.
why would enfeeble give you pdr? it'll only increase your ehp.
"buff grenades"

- Buff Grenades (Buff-Grenades)
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auspexa wrote:
why would enfeeble give you pdr?

Well it does. 6% against normal enemies.
Thats why i expected ele dmg reduction as well.

My EHP went up from 62 to 72k. (against Guardian)
But only my Phys red changes a measly 1k from 26 to 27k.
Why not my ele ehp? Where comes the other 9k difference from?
Im bad at math.
Last edited by LoTharios#3338 on Nov 2, 2022, 3:21:36 AM
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LoTharios wrote:
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auspexa wrote:
why would enfeeble give you pdr?

Well it does. 6% against normal enemies.
Thats why i expected ele dmg reduction as well.

My EHP went up from 62 to 72k. (against Guardian)
But only my Phys red changes a measly 1k from 26 to 27k.
Why not my ele ehp? Where comes the other 9k difference from?


enfeeble won't directly affect pdr.

how it'll affect pdr depends on where your pdr comes from, for example, if you have 11 endurance charges and no armour, and thus 44% pdr, your pdr will be unaffected by enfeeble.

if a normal enemy were to deal 1000 physical damage, and 560 with your pdr taken into account, it'll now deal 700 physical damage with enfeeble, and that'll still be reduced by 44%, so you'll take 392 damage. so pdr remains the same, but you take 30% less damage, so your physical hp would be multipllied by 1.428 (1/0.7).

if, however, your pdr comes from armour, it's a whole different story. pdr that comes from armour completely depends on the size of the hit. if you set your pob to shaper slam preset, you'll see that your pdr will drop significantly, because shaper slam deals a lot of physical damage.

in that case, enfeeble will affect pdr, because the enemy is now dealing less damage and your armour is more effective against a relatively smaller hit. your pdr changing by 1% doesn't mean that you'll take only 1% less damage, it means you're taking 15.85% less damage from a unique enemy (not taking reduced hex effect into account), because it's 1-(0.85*0.99).

this is why enfeeble affects physical max hit (and pdr if your pdr comes from armour), because it makes your armour more effective for the reason I explained above, but it won't affect elemental max hit. the amount of maximum elemental damage you can take without dying is still the same, because enfeeble doesn't change any of your character's properties. it's just harder for the monster to deal that much damage when it's cursed with enfeeble.

ehp calculation is very weird, it entirely depends on the input you use on enemy stat tab so just ignore it imo.
"buff grenades"

- Buff Grenades (Buff-Grenades)
Last edited by auspexa#1404 on Nov 2, 2022, 5:10:51 AM
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auspexa wrote:

ehp calculation is very weird


Hell yes.
As hard as i tried, i dont understand nothing. :)

But i guess it helps me next to nothing.
Considering id have to give up 25% increased damage by switching curses.
Im bad at math.
Last edited by LoTharios#3338 on Nov 2, 2022, 4:51:35 AM
I've edited the post while you were replying.

And the reason why your ehp goes from 62k to 72k is probably due to enfeeble's 15% less modifier, as 62/0.85 is roughly 72 and I guess that's where the difference comes from.

Enfeeble won't change physical max hit value by much, and won't change elemental ones at all, because technically you're not becoming any tankier. The amount of maximum damage you can take is unaffected.
"buff grenades"

- Buff Grenades (Buff-Grenades)
so let me phrase my question different...

what can make me tankier?
I am near to immortal in T16 and against Shaper/Elder/Guardian/Eater of worlds.

But i feel rigth squishy in delve. Died twice yesterday at depth 234.
Which isnt even very deep. So id like to tank up on a budget (10-20 div)
Im bad at math.

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