Group SSF / Group self found

since theres the conflicting argument of "private league" heres some reasons why that doesnt quite fit the margin. i dont expect everyone to understand, so dont be too critical.

1 - you are isolated from the social aspect of the game
2 - league burnout is a thing, you will want to start over eventually, for those that dont want that, hey private league exists.
3 - competitive opportunity is missed, groups could race to get all challenges completed ect..
4 - brag rights to loot you find vs other groups
5 - build diversity depending on the items found
6 - motivation to grind as a team cause tommy the aurabot really needs his flask/robe/6 link ect... ect...
7 - the most important one. GROUP STORAGE 6 people 1 stash. add a "player button" much like you make an officer tab so people could have their own tabs for their personal things too, but everything goes through 1 storage space and is generally shared as a team.
8 - you scratch my back i scratch yours, you found a cool item for a group members build maybe they found one for yours?
9 - value to finding items that are usually junk could be build defining or open up windows to accomplish things as a team, items have more value!



the difference between this and private league.
private league = basically standard mode, you can go on forever if you want to.

having group found in the main game = league burnout seasonally play / competitive / race to be the first group to achieve things / brag rights / build flex / build versatility / shared storage

also players names should have tags in the mode so they can be identified in global and chats as a player of that mode. this is quite an important component of the flex aspect. this can alternatively be done with a symbol that varies in colour depending on the mode.

[SSF]

[Group]

or

[x] = ssf
[x] = group


i could go on but really this is kind of a personal thread and i dont expect everyone to agree or be into it, runescape did group play RIGHT, poe threw out a microtransaction and did it wrong. end of.

lol are you serious? You said it yourself: it already exists.

Also SSF = SOLO SELF Found. Not just solo, not just self, but BOTH. You can't have a group playing something quite literally titled 2x NOT group.

In the main game, create a guild and there you go: group stash. You want to only play with items gained from that group then just do that. No one is saying you can't...but SSF is single player by design, name, and function.

I don't understand your entire post: you literally say it yourself that everything you want already exists in the game. Are you saying you and your friends are simply incapable of playing together, and only together, in the normal game? Because that's ridiculous...why would a different game mode change that?


OR

Are you saying you want group play benefits yourself? As in, /players 8 for PoE?

yes, they're selling "group selffound" already and there is no way they're offering it for free for that reason.

but

for promoting their "group selffound" modes, which they (as usual) totally forgot, they could do a league with groups competing against groups and allow players forming groups for the duration of a league for free.

^but....the basic game is already designed in such a way that you get free group self found, if you choose to play that way. Trade isn't forced on you. There is a guild function, with a guild shared stash. Everything you need to play as a permanent self-found group is right there.

The "paid" leagues are there because you can choose previous league contents to focus on and have it be a completely different experience. You can add additional challenges and things as well. But the actual group self-found part of it....is just a normal function of the game.

It's like saying you are allergic to peanuts, so you want an entire world created for you where peanuts don't exist. Yet in the regular world, you are never forced to eat peanuts by anyone, anywhere, at anytime. The only difference is that the choice is removed in this private little world.

Play the normal league, turn off public chat, create a guild for your group to use, don't trade, and voila! Group self found. It's like magic!

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jsuslak313 wrote:

Everything you need to play as a permanent self-found group is right there.

enforced "group selffound" has higher bragging rights :)

it's like those ssf folks who wanted their mode so people believed them they found/did that stuff alone which they're showing around.

beside that: one time, when playing a league with me, my brother would even offer to buy a private league just to stop me from inviting people and interrupting the game all the time.
well, i promised to not sell stuff when we were playing but ...

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jsuslak313 wrote:

lol are you serious? You said it yourself: it already exists.

Also SSF = SOLO SELF Found. Not just solo, not just self, but BOTH. You can't have a group playing something quite literally titled 2x NOT group.

In the main game, create a guild and there you go: group stash. You want to only play with items gained from that group then just do that. No one is saying you can't...but SSF is single player by design, name, and function.

I don't understand your entire post: you literally say it yourself that everything you want already exists in the game. Are you saying you and your friends are simply incapable of playing together, and only together, in the normal game? Because that's ridiculous...why would a different game mode change that?


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Are you saying you want group play benefits yourself? As in, /players 8 for PoE?

yes logically it exists already but not in the way where people actually play. private leagues suck balls and u see practically 0 people ever mention it, if you knew the success from group ironman mode which in fact is iron man mode which directly correlates to SSF / group SSF. but yes for arguments sake i geuss it would technically be GROUP FOUND.

this is why you dont understand my post.

playing as a team alongside the league to see what you can accomplish WITHOUT trading anyone but your teammates.

poe isnt runescape so i dont expect half yall to understand, but if you played that kinda game-mode you would in fact enjoy it. it adds spice to a game and value to loot you would normally call common junk.

double resist + life ring in main game, 1c trash everyone's already found that, find that shit in group found and omg someone's got an upgrade. trash common uniques? find that shit in group found and geuss what?

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geradon wrote:

yes, they're selling "group selffound" already and there is no way they're offering it for free for that reason.

but

for promoting their "group selffound" modes, which they (as usual) totally forgot, they could do a league with groups competing against groups and allow players forming groups for the duration of a league for free.

yeah you seem to understand more than the other dude, people have too strong opinions on poe and post without thinking, "wait that might actually be fun" i didnt know they are promoting it on private though, but still the factor remains that it would be nice run alongside a actual league for the duration of the league and have the competitive social aspect of it being live vs other groups, regardless of if u actually gotta "rent / pay for it" i totally would and im sure others would.

ive redone the thread as to why i dont think that works as the "intended mode" vs the point im trying to make, the thread is just an opinion though i dont expect many people to be on board as this is more of a runescape thing than poe.

There's a group of streamers that run "Badger's Private League" each league (usually in the 2nd half). You may be interested in that. Here is the link for info:

https://bpl-poe.com/

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Cchris07 wrote:

playing as a team alongside the league to see what you can accomplish WITHOUT trading anyone but your teammates.

poe isnt runescape so i dont expect half yall to understand, but if you played that kinda game-mode you would in fact enjoy it. it adds spice to a game and value to loot you would normally call common junk.

double resist + life ring in main game, 1c trash everyone's already found that, find that shit in group found and omg someone's got an upgrade. trash common uniques? find that shit in group found and geuss what?

I know precisely what you mean, and in fact my guild has been running groups like that since OB. As soon as in-game guilds became a thing I set up a separate mini-guild for us to use on alt accounts, for this exact purpose, so we wouldn't even mix resources etc from our main accounts.

We play at a fairly casual rate (5 hours/week or so, set times), but we make red maps each league and that's fine. We know we don't trade, we share what we find, and we do indeed find upgrades in dropped loot.

But I don't expect to see any further support for it - unless, as others have said, we pay to set up a separate private league, and why bother?