No rituals with Harbinger atlas points ?

I had all ritual nodes taken with a few harbinger nodes and was getting rituals every 2nd or 3rd map.

Now i've put points in for harbinger boss's or something like that along with the rest of all harbinger nodes and hav'nt seen a ritual in about 20-30 maps, running T16

Anyone else have no rituals or far less when taking harbingers ?

Mostly doing full T16 corrupt with scarabs and sextants. Am i juicing too much for it to only give me harbinger and no rituals ?

Im confused why i get less rituals ? anyone know ?

This is the answer I think, atlas mechanics are capped:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/sy495r/psa_atlas_mechanics_are_capped_request_allow_us/

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pr13st wrote:

This is the answer I think, atlas mechanics are capped:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/sy495r/psa_atlas_mechanics_are_capped_request_allow_us/

I think it answers it. Thank you.

Although i had run some maps without scarabs and just plain rare maps and still did'nt see a ritual. I would'nt have gone over 4 mechanics i've chosen at least. Maybe i was unlucky there with RNG

I'll do some testing. I've got a feeling already that scarabs are destoyed when opening the map even though one or two could'nt be run. Probably how i lost my legion !

I always get at least 1 harbinger in every map.

I also always get 4 rituals altars whenever I get those.

I frequently get maps with both harbinger and ritual encounters.

If this is related to some kind of capping mechanic, it's not specific to the combination of harbinger and ritual. There must be other factors in terms of density that are going on.

It's possible there's some kind of "number of encounters" that you should try to stay below. I don't know what that number is. I do know that running both harbinger and ritual at once works just fine—at least in the absence of anything else going on at the same time.

If you've exceeded some limit of "everything going on," I don't know what particular thing is chosen to get culled over everything else …

Ive been testing again this afternoon and I've received only 2 rituals.

T14, T15, and T16. no scarabs, no masters, just plain chissle/alc and go. Again maybe about 20-30 maps with most being a different map each time to check if its the size of maps.

I had got harbingers in each map and 1 ritual only gave me low tribute less than 4k. Hardly enough to sustain my deferrals now if that continues. Lucky it did'nt apply all the items.

With such a low tribute, i assume the atlas points to increase was'nt functioning correctly and i got a standard ritual instead. That would be my only thought right now

I did remove harbinger nodes to test and got the 1 ritual straight after, but again never saw another ritual for about 5-10 maps. It may likely then not be related to harbinger, but something is definitely not working like a couple days ago.

In total now i've probably done about 60-80 maps over 2 days and have got no more than 5 rituals.

Ritual nodes seem bugged to me.

With every possible one taken, I was seeing about about 1/20 rituals, sample size 100 or maps (T14+). If my math is right you should see them about 1/6 times.

That could be bad luck, but its odd hearing you have the same happening. My maps were moderately juiced but probably well below the cap (1 scarab, no harbinger).

Its hard to tell RNG streaks from bugs sometimes.

I specced out of ritual completely and have gotten more ritual overall (up to about 1/10 instead of 1/20).

Harvest, blight, extra essence, incursions all seem to hit about as much as I'd expect (Im fully specced into all of those), only ritual was constantly missing.

One time I went a full 28 maps for Eater with no ritual (while fully specced into it), less than a 1% chance of that happening, then had one, then farmed a full shaper set which was probably 20 maps without another ritual.


Then again, for every 1,000 people playing, one will have bad luck and get a losing streak you only see 1 in 1000 times. It always feels like a bug to them.

My personal theory is Rituals are the first mechanic to get culled when its necessary to do so (because they have the most requirements), I suspect Expedition is next.

This is based on very little obviously but if league mechanics have an even spawn chance they definitely don't feel like they do.