Influenced items only drop from Bosses, but never from Monsters in maps

I ran nothing but Shaper maps today for about 3 hours.
I ran either Shaper Guardian maps, or normal Maps with Shaper Scarabs.
All Maps were Maven witnessed, not Exarch/Eater Influenced.

I did not find a _single_ influenced items from a Monster in the map. The only Influenced Items I have found came from the guardian bosses.

The only other way to obtain them is through other ways, like Expedition Modifiers (Chance for items to drop influenced), Gwennen (I think), Metamorph, Heist etc. Shaper drops Shaped items aswell.

This is either a Bug or a heavy nerf.

Same, I ran only 3 shaper maps but also zero influenced items. What is the use of shaper scarabs if they don't provide drops?

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x nilz wrote:

Same, I ran only 3 shaper maps but also zero influenced items. What is the use of shaper scarabs if they don't provide drops?

pretty sure stealth nerfed. Now i dont use scarabs and purely rely on passive and farm Shaper Guardian map and rely on the boss to drop item

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Stealth nerfed while you need it for challenge.

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crash0verwr1te wrote:

Stealth nerfed while you need it for challenge.

There is ex shard league challenge but i don't it is the reason to be nerfed

Apologies for the thread necro.

Has this been fixed/acknowledged?

I'm guessing not because I just ran three influenced/guardian maps (Minotaur, Hydra and Enslaver) and didn't get a single influence item.

I've also got Atlas Tree for shaper/elder completely filled in, which should give me +95% to drops from at least the guardians/elder/shaper.

Pretty disappointing to kill three lower tier endgame bosses with the only real reward being a map fragment...

i'm pretty sure its because of the challenge and they don't want to devalue their endgame items.

good influenced bases go for several exalts early to midleague and this wouldn't be the case with masses of those bases dropping with ilevel 85+.

inflation in poe got so bad that good players don't pick up rare items and only look/filter for influenced stuff while having late endgame bosses on farm mode.

i'm not the market expert but i guess the value of influenced exalted orbs and such is also directly linked to the droprate of influenced items.

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ok, thinking about it, it's not about making challenges harder.

it took me 20 minutes to buy a complete set of influenced items for ~30c for the challenge, this would have taken ages if those items were 1 alteration orb cause nobody would have been bothered to leave the map for that sale

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i'm pretty sure its because of the challenge and they don't want to devalue their endgame items.

Pretty sure they are saying that they "communicated "


in patch note

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With Conquerors being moved to secondary late-game content, Influenced items will be harder to obtain. Certain generic modifiers from Influenced items are significant improvements to damage for a large subset of builds, and locking that power behind the Influence mechanic limits both player options and pushes players to chase the secondary content more.