insights with Oni-Goroshi

Hey I need some insights on Oni-Goroshi build pls.

Upfront, I have a challenge with a friend of mine. The deal is that skill gems has to be splitting steel and as weapon we have to use Oni-Goroshi, the Char we both play on has to be Ranger.

So since i guess its a very "unique" build and i never played much poe outsite the box, i would ask you for help. Can some1 explain me how to scale Gain Her Embrace from Oni-Goroshi.

I did some theocraft on tree and gems, but I'm not sure if i need onslought for attack speed to prog Her Embrace or better to go flat dmg with Vicious Projectiles or Pierce...

anyone can help me out or give me some ideas how Embrace scale?
I tend to go with this links:
SplittingSteel - Pierce - Onslaught - AddedFireDamage - Maim - IncreasedCriticalStrikes

im unsure if i should fit in Vicious Projectile
or even use elemental damage with attacks?

this is the tree I thought ill go with:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/3.16.2/AAAABgIATADuAdEGIAaiFSAX3Bm0IQoj9io4Kk0s6S2DLZ4wfDnUOrM94j8nR35I7kp9SshNkk4qVvpbr15FYlplTWegapNv8nLDdKB313iuejt7FH11fyuE2Yd2jX2NuZAKkoCS86CfoSKiQKOKqwutEq0cr-uxfLvjvTa-FL6nw-bEoswG037UUt0N35jjn-969Pj2o_lj-uv9bv66AAPG6no7uhqtHOfPvhQ=

I'd be cute if some1 can help me out so ill have some fun playing this private challenge, if this is the wrong area to post pls do not be mad on me.
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dont put pierce or onslaught in your main links, that would be absolutely terrible. maim is also terrible, the increased phys taken would do hardly anything with oni goroshi

added fire damage is also weak with oni, since you already get so much added fire dmg from the buff
You need a source of ignite as Her Embrace is only granted when you ignite an enemy.
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jewdas12 wrote:
dont put pierce or onslaught in your main links, that would be absolutely terrible. maim is also terrible, the increased phys taken would do hardly anything with oni goroshi

added fire damage is also weak with oni, since you already get so much added fire dmg from the buff


so what i should replace them with?
sorry but im new to make my own builds and i try to learn.

what do u think about Vicious Projectiles Support or Elemental Damage with Attacks Support?

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xjjanie wrote:
You need a source of ignite as Her Embrace is only granted when you ignite an enemy.


but how do i do that on SSF without any chance to trade items?
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tomaadah wrote:
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jewdas12 wrote:
dont put pierce or onslaught in your main links, that would be absolutely terrible. maim is also terrible, the increased phys taken would do hardly anything with oni goroshi

added fire damage is also weak with oni, since you already get so much added fire dmg from the buff


so what i should replace them with?
sorry but im new to make my own builds and i try to learn.

what do u think about Vicious Projectiles Support or Elemental Damage with Attacks Support?

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xjjanie wrote:
You need a source of ignite as Her Embrace is only granted when you ignite an enemy.


but how do i do that on SSF without any chance to trade items?


alright so oni goroshi has pretty large base crit, so you just grab whatever crit nodes you have around ranger and you should be able to reach a decent crit chance. use a diamond flask which you will receive from an act 5 quest iirc.

for links i would try to first and foremost convert as much of the dmg as possible, so get the cold conversion from the cold mastery and possibly fire conversion from fire mastery? its tough to convert a purely physical attack without access to trade

but the benefit of having the majority of your dmg being elemental is that it will scale better off elemental damage with attacks, which you probably want to use. you could maybe use physical to lightning in there but the dmg bonus from the gem itself is not gonna be great considering oni already has a ton of phys as extra from the buff

so run something like splitting steel - elemental damage with attacks - vicious proj - crit dmg probably, but after this im uncertain about whats best

options are fire penetration (in this case you wanna try to convert as much as possible to fire), faster attacks (this is usually not a very good support but in ssf your options dont look amazing), crit strike chance, lifetap

the best way to answer these questions is to use pob and just see which gem will preform best with a given tree, its really hard to gauge whats gonna be best otherwise

you do probably want some form of pierce with this skill tho, but you can just grab one small pierce node from the pierce cluster to the right of ranger start, as opposed to using a very weak gem for pierce
Last edited by jewdas12#5648 on Jan 21, 2022, 6:12:41 AM
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jewdas12 wrote:
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tomaadah wrote:
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jewdas12 wrote:
dont put pierce or onslaught in your main links, that would be absolutely terrible. maim is also terrible, the increased phys taken would do hardly anything with oni goroshi

added fire damage is also weak with oni, since you already get so much added fire dmg from the buff


so what i should replace them with?
sorry but im new to make my own builds and i try to learn.

what do u think about Vicious Projectiles Support or Elemental Damage with Attacks Support?

"
xjjanie wrote:
You need a source of ignite as Her Embrace is only granted when you ignite an enemy.


but how do i do that on SSF without any chance to trade items?


alright so oni goroshi has pretty large base crit, so you just grab whatever crit nodes you have around ranger and you should be able to reach a decent crit chance. use a diamond flask which you will receive from an act 5 quest iirc.

for links i would try to first and foremost convert as much of the dmg as possible, so get the cold conversion from the cold mastery and possibly fire conversion from fire mastery? its tough to convert a purely physical attack without access to trade

but the benefit of having the majority of your dmg being elemental is that it will scale better off elemental damage with attacks, which you probably want to use. you could maybe use physical to lightning in there but the dmg bonus from the gem itself is not gonna be great considering oni already has a ton of phys as extra from the buff

so run something like splitting steel - elemental damage with attacks - vicious proj - crit dmg probably, but after this im uncertain about whats best

options are fire penetration (in this case you wanna try to convert as much as possible to fire), faster attacks (this is usually not a very good support but in ssf your options dont look amazing), crit strike chance, lifetap

the best way to answer these questions is to use pob and just see which gem will preform best with a given tree, its really hard to gauge whats gonna be best otherwise

you do probably want some form of pierce with this skill tho, but you can just grab one small pierce node from the pierce cluster to the right of ranger start, as opposed to using a very weak gem for pierce



hey tyvm for the detailed answer, may i ask u why do you want to convert phys to cold or fire?
whats the deal to convert it, the pob show me lot lower numbers when i take these passives ( sorry but noob on this end=)
if a large portion of your damage comes from elemental dmg you typically wanna convert the rest as well so you can fully utilize things like elemental dmg with attacks, elemental curses, and auras

poe is all about specializing into one thing, in this case elemental dmg, and try to focus everything into that
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jewdas12 wrote:
if a large portion of your damage comes from elemental dmg you typically wanna convert the rest as well so you can fully utilize things like elemental dmg with attacks, elemental curses, and auras

poe is all about specializing into one thing, in this case elemental dmg, and try to focus everything into that


okay so what do you think about this PoB?
https://pastebin.com/gt6QQj9C

how does life leech work from ele dmg? as i think i need Leech as i can not run vitality as i run vaal pact
Try this:

https://pastebin.com/ys0jqwZh

Life leech works fine with ele damage (just make sure you are getting attack leech, not physical attack leech, so that leech wheel you took doesn't actually work)

Early on, run vitality and not Vaal Pact. Only switch when your HP gets high enough that vitality's flat is worse.

This tree puts you right next to Point Blank. You will want to get this as you start fighting map bosses (and make sure you stand right in their face when you fight them).
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TemjinGold wrote:
Try this:

https://pastebin.com/ys0jqwZh

Life leech works fine with ele damage (just make sure you are getting attack leech, not physical attack leech, so that leech wheel you took doesn't actually work)

Early on, run vitality and not Vaal Pact. Only switch when your HP gets high enough that vitality's flat is worse.

This tree puts you right next to Point Blank. You will want to get this as you start fighting map bosses (and make sure you stand right in their face when you fight them).


okay tyvm, ill give it a try. never thought about cold dmg tbh^^
what do you think about longshot at the bottem right site, aint that good for range attacks?

also i think i need to change my auras?
right now i was planning to go with:
Herald Of Ash
Precision
and Purity of Elements for resi

would you got herald of Ice insted or still ash as oni does "fire dmg"?
Last edited by tomaadah#6911 on Jan 21, 2022, 9:55:00 AM

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