Brand Mechanics

Hello there! o/

I was trying a leveling storm brand build when I came up with a few questions about brands mechanics:

1.Can brands leech?
-Looking at the poe wiki, it says:"Brand damage source is considered to come from the player, which means it will be affected by leech and reflected damage."
-Looking at reddit and some other post(too old) it seems like they can leech but it isn't clear enough.
-Finally, in game, I've tried to leech life or energy shield with storm brand and there is no leech in both cases. When I pass my cursor on the supports gems, both are green ticked with storm brand, but no effect is seen.

2.Elemental Overload (EO) can be applied with brands?
-Poewiki said that "Brand damage source is considered to come from the player" and "Only skills you use yourself can activate Elemental Overload. Currently, Traps, mines, and totems cannot gain bonus damage from Elemental Overload. This will be fixed in a later update. Minions are unaffected by Elemental Overload". So it should be activated, the new EO icon appears on the storm brand icon in my habilities bar, but the damage numbers dont change and I don't see difference in damage killing mobs.
-Reading reddit I've seen there's a bug with EO with totems, traps and mines, where Bex told they were aware of the problem. But she didn't mention brands, some other players comment that they are having problems with EO's interaction by brands but there isn't a clear answer to this bug/mechanic problem.
-There's also a point in PC Known Issues where it sais "Elemental Overload damage increase doesn't change tooltip DPS". But I don't think is only a visual bug, I don't feel any damage difference.

Those are my two principal doubts about brands, I don't know if they are bugs,outdated info or maybe its mechanic. If u can bring some light to these questions, I'll be so grateful. Thanku for your time! And if u come up with other questions about brands don't hesitate asking here, maybe we can find an answer!

Have a nice day, exiles!
Thystral

PD:GGG help us if u have time!^^


SOLUTION:

1.Yes, brands can leech, it's a spell that comes from the player.
2.Yes, Elemental Overload can be applied but is bugged and damage number don't change on the tooltip. (GGG is aware of this)

Thanks for your comments and help!

Last edited by Thystral#1397 on Jan 15, 2022, 10:47:31 AM
Last bumped on Jan 15, 2022, 10:43:55 AM
you can both leech and get ele overload with brands.

the reason you would appear to be getting no leech, is because you are very low level, and leech is returned as a % of damage dealt. you doing low damage == low leech amount.

sahto_storm is my storm brand character from this league. i have


i leech just fine.


as far as crit / ele overload. you are, again, very low level. you have almost no investment into crit (2 small 25% nodes and light of divinity 30% node). storm brand has a baseline 6% crit. With your 80% increased crit chance, your brand has a 10.8% crit chance. so, youll *eventually* crit, and get the buff, but it may take a bit.
Last edited by Thror2k5#7154 on Jan 14, 2022, 9:27:24 PM
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Thror2k5 wrote:
you can both leech and get ele overload with brands.

the reason you would appear to be getting no leech, is because you are very low level, and leech is returned as a % of damage dealt. you doing low damage == low leech amount.

sahto_storm is my storm brand character from this league. i have


i leech just fine.


as far as crit / ele overload. you are, again, very low level. you have almost no investment into crit (2 small 25% nodes and light of divinity 30% node). storm brand has a baseline 6% crit. With your 80% increased crit chance, your brand has a 10.8% crit chance. so, youll *eventually* crit, and get the buff, but it may take a bit.



Thanks for your answer Thror! o/
Today I tried again to prove leech and it worked! Idk what I did before, I was just linking storm brand to a life leech supp. I know storm brand has low damage, but if it was my only font of life reg, life should rise. But it is fixed. Thanks!

On the other hand I still have problems with EO, there should be a difference in damage despite I have low damage. Maybe these images explain better my problem.
https://imgur.com/a/nWLv8QY

Thanku for your time!
EO tooltip is currently bugged and GGG knows about it. You are getting the damage increase but it is not shown on the tooltip.
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gladiatorpie wrote:
EO tooltip is currently bugged and GGG knows about it. You are getting the damage increase but it is not shown on the tooltip.


Thanks for your answer gladiatorpie! Yeah I saw it, I wrote it on my first comment. But it was to make sure it was only a visual bug or something more was going on.
Ty for your time!Doubts resolved! ^^

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