Assassin Blade Vortex Help

Okay, so I've pretty much been offline for like ~5 years and came back with a lot of stuff updated and with extra stuff (spell suppression, change in the passive skill tree, etc)

and I've been using a very very old build where I play Assassin cold blade vortex, but since everything changed and I died more frequently I decided to change my sets and stuff. In the end, it went more horribly than I thought. Changed to Physical Blade vortex with a lot of auras, Grace, Determination, Discipline, ETC. With only 2000 HP and 1300 Energy Shield.

Now I really need help, used to be able to fight red maps but now I can't even finish a tier 9-10 Map.

Please Help ;_;

Hi and welcome back,

first of all many things has changed but you are mixing too many things.

It will require lots of rebuilding to fix it ...

Cold Blade vortex is not a bad idea but I would check some builds to get an inspiration (or poe.ninja web to check gear / passives from other players )


https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Assassin&skill=Blade-Vortex&sort=dps

Path of building Community Fork is also very popular tool to plan your builds


Some general tips:

1) There´s an interaction with Blade blast
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Blade_Vortex?so=search

2) You want 6-link for endgame (you have effective 4-link ... with linked clarity)

3) Life/ES hybrid is possible but I would rather recommend pure life (or life/MoM) build now.
You should aim for 5-6k life as bare minimum with an extra layers of defense (unless you want to play pure glass canon)

4) It´s easier to get more auras now but I would aim for core of the build first
= enough DPS and decent life pool (you need to invest in both life on gear and tree ).

People usually aim for 150-200% life from the tree while having life on every rare gear (at least 60+) but you are using too many unique items with low (NO) life roll and have 30% life from the tree ...

5) BV is spell not attack (added physical damage craft for attacks is useless)

For the life pool, yes I've been wanting to use Carcass jack and other items which give me more life and for the skill tree I'm also investing in suppressing spell damage since I died mostly due to spells, but then now I can't focus more on my health. Pretty much at a loss for that part

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RegilX wrote:

For the life pool, yes I've been wanting to use Carcass jack and other items which give me more life and for the skill tree I'm also investing in suppressing spell damage since I died mostly due to spells, but then now I can't focus more on my health. Pretty much at a loss for that part

Spell suppression is nice once you reach 100% (permanent 50% spell mitigation) but not with such low life.

Life pool works all the time against both spells and attacks.

You can also get lots of Spell suppression from gear and save many passive points.

1) I would drop suppression nodes for now and invest more to life.
If you want to keep suppression you should get as much as you can from gear and fill the rest with the tree to reach 100% and drop some damage eventually then.
You need more life anyway.

2) Make build to deal 100% cold damage (it means all enemies are chilled/freeze permanently and chilled/frozen enemy deal no damage or has lower time to react = better defense than some suppression)

I would also drop Intensify for hypothermia support (you want to move all the time to avoid damage) and same for Natural Affinity but it´s just my opinion.

3) Get decent rare gear with life / res
(You have probably some legacy gear here and there which is very expensive now)
4) Chaos resistance is also more important now than before

5) Grace aura gives you nice chance to evade attack hits which is not a bad idea for dualwielding (although shield is an option ...)

Determination helps you a bit with small physical hits but without an extra physical mitigation (end charges, phys to element conversion etc..) will help you a bit vs harder hits.

6) Ailments --- lots of changes and ways how to mitigate them
Flasks, tree (Crystal skin,.. ), gear ..
You should focus on shock, freeze, bleed (+ corrupted blood), curses (you probably have some legacy flask mods etc)
I didn´t add them on passive tree so you need to work on it

7) Very good (and expensive) items with high life / res / suppression (or damage) could be a way to go for late endgame.

I have made a quick tree (haven´t changed gear)
https://pastebin.com/n1Ww5fXu

Some top DPS gear from poe.ninja (ignore class, tree,...)
https://pastebin.com/ABEUJfSW

You need to download Path of building Comunity fork to see them.

There´s so much more but I think you have smth to dream about.

Oh yeah, I've been using the Path of Building to try and make my builds, and I might have forgotten to mention but I "Shifted" my build from Cold Blade Vortex to Physical Blade Vortex, so I might have made an error there, also here is my "Visualized tree" Although I haven't changed the gear since I don't know which and what is considered good.

https://pastebin.com/k6Yih7p2

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RegilX wrote:

Oh yeah, I've been using the Path of Building to try and make my builds, and I might have forgotten to mention but I "Shifted" my build from Cold Blade Vortex to Physical Blade Vortex, so I might have made an error there, also here is my "Visualized tree" Although I haven't changed the gear since I don't know which and what is considered good.
https://pastebin.com/k6Yih7p2

Made a quick check and I think you should aim for more life
You have only 77% from this tree (level 100 btw?)

Also cold version of this build seems better to me.

Owh well I guess I might switch and reset the passive again to go for cold blade vortex, since the passive skill tree doesn't actually support physical I guess

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RegilX wrote:

Owh well I guess I might switch and reset the passive again to go for cold blade vortex, since the passive skill tree doesn't actually support physical I guess

You have more choices how to scale DPS with cold (elemental) and also chill/freeze potential is great as defensive option.

I guess physical builds usually go for poison too but ele version seems better anyway.

You can check my tree I have posted above and improve it as you want.
If you want to get suppression try to get as much as you can from gear.

You can check all possible mods on items here.
https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php

TIP:
Just note than many items became "Legacy" on standard (not dropping anymore = much higher value).
i.e. your Atziri's Promise flask has more Legacy variants
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Atziri%27s_Promise

You have perfect legacy version 20/15 (from 3.0 - 3.15 time)
There´s also older Legacy version (aka "double legacy") 25/15 which is the most expensive.
Many unique items have legacy versions on standard now.

Ah ... there are possible enchants on flasks now ... but that´s another story ...
I have been away a year or so and still finding new things from leagues I have passed ... but 5 years ... it must look like a new game:)

Yeap :/, I just discovered a lot of things, like this cluster jewel thing, the abyssal socket gear as well as uniques being outdated, and is it actually impossible for me to go for physical blade vortex or it's just way easier to do elemental blade vortex compared to pure physical ???

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RegilX wrote:

Yeap :/, I just discovered a lot of things, like this cluster jewel thing, the abyssal socket gear as well as uniques being outdated, and is it actually impossible for me to go for physical blade vortex or it's just way easier to do elemental blade vortex compared to pure physical ???

You can go pure physical too but it´s a lot easier to scale higher DPS on ele build bcos you can scale both physical damage and elemental damage you will convert into.

Some mechanics used for melee physical builds (Bleed or Impale) are not possible with spells.
There´s just poison which is not so great.