A Good Fix for the Chainbreaker Nerf

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

So, the nerf to this keystone stems from the fact that Damage-Over-Time skills do not HIT anything, so the 5 Rage you lost pre-nerf didn't apply to those, making a fix for this a little complicated.

I think the #1 issue with Chainbreaker is the spell BERSERK : https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Berserk

Berserk is a really good spell, but it lasts WAY TOO LONG.

At 60 max rage, 110% inc mana regen and the two small nodes leading up to the Berserking notable passive (40% reduced inherent loss of rage), I could get my Berserk to last about 11-12 seconds without hitting anything. My investment is moderate, and this spell can be made to last even longer.

I propose a heavy nerf to the duration of this spell. A 4-5 unmodifiable second duration that depletes your Rage sounds good to me, maybe even shorter. Berserk has a 5 second cooldown.

Edit: Also, here is a link to the Chainbreaker keystone if you are not familiar.
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Chainbreaker

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Slavpocalypse wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

So, the nerf to this keystone stems from the fact that Damage-Over-Time skills do not HIT anything, so the 5 Rage you lost pre-nerf didn't apply to those, making a fix for this a little complicated.

I think the #1 issue with Chainbreaker is the spell BERSERK : https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Berserk

Berserk is a really good spell, but it lasts WAY TOO LONG.

At 60 max rage, 110% inc mana regen and the two small nodes leading up to the Berserking notable passive (40% reduced inherent loss of rage), I could get my Berserk to last about 11-12 seconds without hitting anything. My investment is moderate, and this spell can be made to last even longer.

I propose a heavy nerf to the duration of this spell. A 4-5 unmodifiable second duration that depletes your Rage sounds good to me, maybe even shorter. Berserk has a 5 second cooldown.

Edit: Also, here is a link to the Chainbreaker keystone if you are not familiar.
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Chainbreaker

No.
Zerkers degen life the more rage they have and the ascendancy takes 10% more dmg.

The #1 issue with CB was CB, not Berserk.
Zerkers don't get extra uptime on zerk via mana regen; that was everyone else who took CB.

Cry more about Chainbreaker though. You want an ascendancy's core ability/identity nerfed because your Timeless Jewel was nerfed?
No.

Also, don't link things in the Wiki that aren't updated.

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Slavpocalypse wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

So, the nerf to this keystone stems from the fact that Damage-Over-Time skills do not HIT anything, so the 5 Rage you lost pre-nerf didn't apply to those, making a fix for this a little complicated.

I think the #1 issue with Chainbreaker is the spell BERSERK : https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Berserk

Berserk is a really good spell, but it lasts WAY TOO LONG.

At 60 max rage, 110% inc mana regen and the two small nodes leading up to the Berserking notable passive (40% reduced inherent loss of rage), I could get my Berserk to last about 11-12 seconds without hitting anything. My investment is moderate, and this spell can be made to last even longer.

I propose a heavy nerf to the duration of this spell. A 4-5 unmodifiable second duration that depletes your Rage sounds good to me, maybe even shorter. Berserk has a 5 second cooldown.

Edit: Also, here is a link to the Chainbreaker keystone if you are not familiar.
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Chainbreaker

No.
Zerkers degen life the more rage they have and the ascendancy takes 10% more dmg.

The #1 issue with CB was CB, not Berserk.
Zerkers don't get extra uptime on zerk via mana regen; that was everyone else who took CB.

Cry more about Chainbreaker though. You want an ascendancy's core ability/identity nerfed because your Timeless Jewel was nerfed?
No.

Also, don't link things in the Wiki that aren't updated.

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

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Slavpocalypse wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

So, the nerf to this keystone stems from the fact that Damage-Over-Time skills do not HIT anything, so the 5 Rage you lost pre-nerf didn't apply to those, making a fix for this a little complicated.

I think the #1 issue with Chainbreaker is the spell BERSERK : https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Berserk

Berserk is a really good spell, but it lasts WAY TOO LONG.

At 60 max rage, 110% inc mana regen and the two small nodes leading up to the Berserking notable passive (40% reduced inherent loss of rage), I could get my Berserk to last about 11-12 seconds without hitting anything. My investment is moderate, and this spell can be made to last even longer.

I propose a heavy nerf to the duration of this spell. A 4-5 unmodifiable second duration that depletes your Rage sounds good to me, maybe even shorter. Berserk has a 5 second cooldown.

Edit: Also, here is a link to the Chainbreaker keystone if you are not familiar.
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Chainbreaker

No.
Zerkers degen life the more rage they have and the ascendancy takes 10% more dmg.

The #1 issue with CB was CB, not Berserk.
Zerkers don't get extra uptime on zerk via mana regen; that was everyone else who took CB.

Cry more about Chainbreaker though. You want an ascendancy's core ability/identity nerfed because your Timeless Jewel was nerfed?
No.

Also, don't link things in the Wiki that aren't updated.

And you're right. I don't know enough about Rage to make an acceptable fix it seems. This still doesn't feel right. I'm def fair about how things should be balanced when I do understand them well, and this change they made seems way overtuned. There has to be a better way. If you're tired of me crying, please just ignore me.

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Slavpocalypse wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

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Slavpocalypse wrote:

No.
Zerkers degen life the more rage they have and the ascendancy takes 10% more dmg.

The #1 issue with CB was CB, not Berserk.
Zerkers don't get extra uptime on zerk via mana regen; that was everyone else who took CB.

Cry more about Chainbreaker though. You want an ascendancy's core ability/identity nerfed because your Timeless Jewel was nerfed?
No.

Also, don't link things in the Wiki that aren't updated.

And you're right. I don't know enough about Rage to make an acceptable fix it seems. This still doesn't feel right. I'm def fair about how things should be balanced when I do understand them well, and this change they made seems way overtuned. There has to be a better way. If you're tired of me crying, please just ignore me.

So your solution to something that is apparently overnerfed is to nerf a class' core mechanic, just because?

As other have already stated in other threads, CB undermined the identity of Berserkers and it was getting stupid to see everyone have rage and using Berserk. Running around with Berserk up doing nothing while totems get all the rage benefits etc...

The optimal gameplay meta was shifting towards every class and ability having rage and using the same spell. It had to be changed.