Multiple sources of "Enemies maimed by %skill take increased physical damage"

The only information provided on multiple maims is that "Multiple maims do not stack", which can be understood differently.

It might mean that if enemy is already maimed, than any other application of maim to him is cancelled as it had never happened.

But it can also mean that if another source of maim applies to already maimed enemy, it counts as if that source does maim the enemy too, but it just doesn't add another -30% movement speed debuff (doesn't stack the maim debuff effect).

This is very important when it comes to skills that grant additional damage taken by enemies maimed by your skills.

What happens if two players together fight an enemy and:
1. Player 1 (Gladiator) has Blood in the Eyes skill (Enemies Maimed by you take 10% increased Physiacal Damage)
2. Player 1 hits enemy with attack supported by lvl20 Maim Support (Enemies Maimed by Supported Skills take 14% increased Physical Damage)
3. Player 2 has active Flesh and Stone aura (Enemies Maimed by this Skill take 16% increased Physical Damage)
4. Player 2 hits enemy with attack supported by lvl1 Maim Support (Enemies Maimed by Supported Skills take 10% increased Physical Damage)

Maim as debuff itself did not stack

But the conditional clause , "if Maim than X" stack, either additive (increase / reduced) or multiplicative (more /less and depends on internal code name . Read wiki for details)

I have read the wiki article on Maim before posting this.

The information about maim there is very short, I can even quote it here.

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Maim (known as Maimed in status icon) is a debuff that applies 30% reduced movement speed on the affected target for 4 seconds.

Multiple maims do not stack. Maim is applied by attacks, just like hinder is by spells. Since maim and hinder are different debuffs, an enemy can be affected by both simultaneously.[2] By itself, Maim does not apply any damage effects; however, the maimed status does provide a damage bonus for Maim Support and Blood in the Eyes passive nodes.

This is all the article has. There is no information about how will multiple sources of maim interact with each other and increased damage taken they grant to maimed targets. I've searched reddit too, but there are only guesses, no proofs or quotes.

Regarding your answer, where did you take that information from?

Situation 1 is 24% increased phys taken

Situation 2 is 16% increased phys taken if within the radius, 10% if not or the optional 3rd criteria 26% if you socket that lvl 1 maim with the aura.

AFAIK every debuff in PoE "stacks" so to speak but only the largest value one is used unless its a multi stack mechanic like wither or poison.

That being said we only know this from assumptions and other players knowledge from the wiki and PoB so if PoB for example is wrong I would be too :p

.....maim itself only did "You have reduced Movement Speed from being Maimed"

The other are additional stat...

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Draegnarrr wrote:

Situation 1 is 24% increased phys taken

Situation 2 is 16% increased phys taken if within the radius, 10% if not or the optional 3rd criteria 26% if you socket that lvl 1 maim with the aura.

AFAIK every debuff in PoE "stacks" so to speak but only the largest value one is used unless its a multi stack mechanic like wither or poison.

That being said we only know this from assumptions and other players knowledge from the wiki and PoB so if PoB for example is wrong I would be too :p

In my question, those are not situation 1 and 2. Those are two players fighting the same enemy together, thus, applying all their Maims on that enemy.

I want to know how this will interact with multiple "maimed enemies take % inc damage taken" from those maims.

You say they don't stack, someone on reddit said they don't stack, neohongkong says they do stack.
In PoB they do stack, even if they come from your different skills - but only from some skills, not from all, which makes me reasonably think that PoB might be incorrect.

All of this is very contradictory and controversial.

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neohongkong wrote:

.....maim itself only did "You have reduced Movement Speed from being Maimed"

The other are additional stat...

Obviously, that is easy to understand. What is hard to understand is what I asked in the first post, including how to calculate in my example.

"you have X than Y" stat usually stack.....

oh from different players? Yeah i think neohongkong is right they stack or rather the gladiator bonus stacks with the others. sorry i misunderstood what your two scenarios were about

so it should be blood in the eyes + whoevers maim is greatest which in your take totals to 26%

though tbh I think you'd need mark to give you a concrete answer if you wanted to be absolutely certain

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neohongkong wrote:

"you have X than Y" stat usually stack.....

In this case it's rather "if enemy was X by you, then Y". Which might mean if another player does X to an enemy, that enemy is no longer considered X by you and is considered X by that other player. X is maimed of course.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

oh from different players? Yeah i think neohongkong is right they stack or rather the gladiator bonus stacks with the others.

Well, assuming is not enough, because it might work completely other way one is thinking. Also if they stack - then why PoB does not show that damage increases if you hit an enemy with 2 different skills supported by Maim?

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Draegnarrr wrote:

though tbh I think you'd need mark to give you a concrete answer if you wanted to be absolutely certain

I am planning my build around playing with my friend, so we need to be absolutely sure how things work not to waste skills, gem sockets and skill points for nothing. Is there a way to get an answer from Mark?

I said that the gladiator bonus stacks with the others (which is what the other guy was saying AFAIK with you have x then y) not that multiple maims stack, tbh its fairly academic if you are playing with your friend and you are both pure phys the gems will be nearly identical either way.

Maim doesn't have any passive support and its a lower end dps gem being that you can sideline it to any other phys skill, slap it on flesh and stone if you want the maximum, literally anything else if you don't.

Don't put it on primarily link unless you don't have enough real supports available for that skill, bleeds for example usually have to slap it on etc.