Stop putting items in rituals so expensive they can not be deferred

I think I speak for just about everyone who has seen an item worth a lot of currency show up in a ritual...and be too expensive to even defer. What is the point of the deferral system if anything we really want can't even be deferred? This time I made 1800 in the area and the item cost 2205 to defer.

Honestly, the ritual system seems kind of trashy so far. Most of the time I can't even make enough to defer items that I have already deferred, and rarely can I afford to buy anything the first time it shows up. Even if I can, I can't, because I have to defer items I already had deferred. It seems like the whole tribute system needs about a 50% boost in tribute earned to even be a viable system.
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Seems like its only something you run into while leveling. Once you are in Maps you will not run into that issue anymore. Unless of course you Die while doing a ritual anyway. THEN you can very well run into not having enough to defer an item. And like most every league ive ever played in 8 years its once again a mechanic you are almost better off ignoring till you reach maps. It not only slows you down but, most of the time theres not too much to gain from them and even when you do see something good you probably wont have enough to defer anyway because you dont kill enough things in them while leveling.

I had it happen a few times with 6Ls while leveling through the content but since getting to maps ive not had it happen but once and that was only because i crashed on the very first one as soon as a touched it leaving me less than 200 short on deferring 2 Exalts..
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Last edited by Demonoz#1375 on Jan 23, 2021, 10:10:09 PM
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Demonoz wrote:
Seems like its only something you run into while leveling. Once you are in Maps you will not run into that issue anymore. Unless of course you Die while doing a ritual anyway. THEN you can very well run into not having enough to defer an item. And like most every league ive ever played in 8 years its once again a mechanic you are almost better off ignoring till you reach maps. It not only slows you down but, most of the time theres not too much to gain from them and even when you do see something good you probably wont have enough to defer anyway because you dont kill enough things in them while leveling.

I had it happen a few times with 6Ls while leveling through the content but since getting to maps ive not had it happen but once and that was only because i crashed on the very first one as soon as a touched it leaving me less than 200 short on deferring 2 Exalts..


Wrong. There are multiple cases where people were getting fated connections in maps for over 17k tp and had no way of deferring it.
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Ydoum wrote:
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Demonoz wrote:
Seems like its only something you run into while leveling. Once you are in Maps you will not run into that issue anymore. Unless of course you Die while doing a ritual anyway. THEN you can very well run into not having enough to defer an item. And like most every league ive ever played in 8 years its once again a mechanic you are almost better off ignoring till you reach maps. It not only slows you down but, most of the time theres not too much to gain from them and even when you do see something good you probably wont have enough to defer anyway because you dont kill enough things in them while leveling.

I had it happen a few times with 6Ls while leveling through the content but since getting to maps ive not had it happen but once and that was only because i crashed on the very first one as soon as a touched it leaving me less than 200 short on deferring 2 Exalts..


Wrong. There are multiple cases where people were getting fated connections in maps for over 17k tp and had no way of deferring it.


IDK i was just stating my experience and ive got a shit ton of REALLY good things since getting to maps. Inspired Learning, 2 Cards for the ilvl 100 Crusader Chest, Exalts, Doctor Card. ALL in white maps so. Like i said if you DIE while doing even one of the Rituals you will absolutely fuck your self out of deferring something good because all the good items ive got was also pretty damn close.

You can also fuck yourself out of having enough if you dont kill everything in and around the ritual before you start it as well because it will give less points. Thats why some people have been doing shit like rushing the boss then going back and do the rest to spawn the boss in all of them for even more points. But, that can also cause the last one to not give points at all as some have reported.
There is a fine line between Consideration and Hesitation.
The former is Wisdom, the latter is Fear.
Last edited by Demonoz#1375 on Jan 23, 2021, 10:19:07 PM
I just had a headhunter spawn and i dont have enough tribute to defer, (the map im in is a T14 primordial pool)
You are going to want to read this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3016530

Non-deferrable items are not intended to be a thing. It is just that it seesm to be technically difficult to prevent this from happening.

And... it's "not too common" for them to put too much effort into fixing it.

If they wanted to, I guess they could have it so that you can always defer at least one item. If the deferral cost is too high, then you would get no discount.
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Cipp wrote:
You are going to want to read this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3016530

Non-deferrable items are not intended to be a thing. It is just that it seesm to be technically difficult to prevent this from happening.

And... it's "not too common" for them to put too much effort into fixing it.

If they wanted to, I guess they could have it so that you can always defer at least one item. If the deferral cost is too high, then you would get no discount.


Techically difficult?

It sounds like a lot of BS to be honest.

It is simple to prevent the maximum deferral cost from being higher than the average number of points/monsters near the shrine.

There are a lot of things 10x harder to code going on in this game.
Easyes solution: Get to 5k of tributepounts. After that each deferral costs like 10/15/25/30% of that amount. That way you can rerole once and still have something left to deferr a potential good item and then just take that amount off of the current tribute cost.


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