Pathfinder or Assassin for BV Poison Leaguestarter?

Please guys I am so torn on this one. T_T

Assassin seemingly has more damage but Pathfinder has more QoL and faster. >_>

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Please guys I am so torn on this one. T_T

Assassin seemingly has more damage but Pathfinder has more QoL and faster. >_>

I used to always take the more damage route and push it as far as I could go...

but that was in the past, now QOL is first and damage is second, as long as damage reaches the acceptable threshold. Long grinding sessions are too much of a pain otherwise.

Ranger start seems to waste quite a few passives before you get anywhere useful. Shadow stars useful right away.

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bㄴaㄷkㅁut wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Please guys I am so torn on this one. T_T

Assassin seemingly has more damage but Pathfinder has more QoL and faster. >_>

I used to always take the more damage route and push it as far as I could go...

but that was in the past, now QOL is first and damage is second, as long as damage reaches the acceptable threshold. Long grinding sessions are too much of a pain otherwise.

I am not sure if Pathfinder has enough though. Just chance for more damage essentially. QoL is great though.

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Mythabril wrote:

Ranger start seems to waste quite a few passives before you get anywhere useful. Shadow stars useful right away.

Yeah, damage is gonna be low for a while in first acts.

assassin, its worse for sure than it was but slightly better than PF i think

This is a bossing league so take that into consideration.
The ass is tried and true but the PF can get hella tanky and perma flasky.
I'd do cold conversion pf BV but that's just me.

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pr13st wrote:

This is a bossing league so take that into consideration.
The ass is tried and true but the PF can get hella tanky and perma flasky.
I'd do cold conversion pf BV but that's just me.

95% of the content is still killing mosnters in maps/delve/heist etc, the maven 10 boss encounter or whater is hardly worth to build around as a first character since the rewards is lackluster at best.

QoL of pathfinder is nullified once you get a HH with this still broken build. Assassin of course where it's DPS will come out on top in sketchy boss fights.

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pr13st wrote:

This is a bossing league so take that into consideration.
The ass is tried and true but the PF can get hella tanky and perma flasky.
I'd do cold conversion pf BV but that's just me.

I would worry more about Conquerors tbh. Oh and about not dying in Rituals.

Cold BV will take a lot of investment to get going.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

QoL of pathfinder is nullified once you get a HH with this still broken build. Assassin of course where it's DPS will come out on top in sketchy boss fights.

No HH for a while prolly.

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LowBudget780 wrote:

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Draegnarrr wrote:

assassin, its worse for sure than it was but slightly better than PF i think

BV Poison Assassin is still really good. The nerf only caused a 15% damage decrease and a 14% MS loss after you factor in the Mistwalker buffs.

Mistwalker buff is nothing if you stop for a second. Doesn't offset massive nerfs.

It lost about 25% damage since it had 20% as extra and no other sources + 50% incr. damage. Still should be fine though.

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LowBudget780 wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Please guys I am so torn on this one. T_T

Assassin seemingly has more damage but Pathfinder has more QoL and faster. >_>

Pathfinder not worth it at all, will lose 3/4 of your DPS output and you also end up with less MS.

Yeah, less damage but way higher move speed actually.

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LowBudget780 wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

It lost about 25% damage since it had 20% as extra and no other sources + 50% incr. damage. Still should be fine though.p

It's not 25%. Take any old Assassin Poison VB build and run it through PoB right now with the new update, none of them lose 25% of their damage.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Yeah, less damage but way higher move speed actually.

Feel free to show me these way higher numbers.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Mistwalker buff is nothing if you stop for a second. Doesn't offset massive nerfs.

Run Withering Step and Elusive will be up constantly with the new changes.

That's about 25% damage, you are just nitpicking for no reason.

Just look at Pathfinder ascendancy. It didn't lost ms and flask effect.

Does Withering Step actually REFRESH Elusive now? What it's cooldown / availabiltiy?

You just can't use Dash skills with it or something annoying like that? Or if I Dash I just lose phasing but not Elusive?