Q&A on Blackflame

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How does ignite scale when you have Blackflame equipped?
It works like a "damage taken as X" stat. Essentially, your ignites will scale with your own fire/burning damage stats as usual and not with chaos damage stats. However, the monster's damage taken will be scaled by chaos damage affecting stats like chaos resistance and wither (and not by fire resistance, etc).

This ring sounds really cool to me, however....

Correct me if I'm wrong here but doesn't that make fire skills arguably worse?
I don't know how different conversion builds would fair but (from my understanding) fire skills have a pretty sizable % of dps tied to elemental penetration, which doesn't work.

And while enemies do have less chaos resistance than elemental (I think), the chaos penetration is in a lot lower amounts.
The only other thing i can think of is to scale % increased damage taken.

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SandboxRooK wrote:

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How does ignite scale when you have Blackflame equipped?
It works like a "damage taken as X" stat. Essentially, your ignites will scale with your own fire/burning damage stats as usual and not with chaos damage stats. However, the monster's damage taken will be scaled by chaos damage affecting stats like chaos resistance and wither (and not by fire resistance, etc).

This ring sounds really cool to me, however....

Correct me if I'm wrong here but doesn't that make fire skills arguably worse?
I don't know how different conversion builds would fair but (from my understanding) fire skills have a pretty sizable % of dps tied to elemental penetration, which doesn't work.

And while enemies do have less chaos resistance than elemental (I think), the chaos penetration is in a lot lower amounts.
The only other thing i can think of is to scale % increased damage taken.

you lose easy access to pen but instead get to deal with lower base resists and get wither which is really strong
cant say for sure how good it is without pob, but it looks viable

15 stacks of withered result in 60% incr. damage taken. Could be strong, would have to see on a finished char in PoB.

The notable Corruption also grants 20% inc. effect of withered (nodes leading up to it don't help ignites so probably bad).

A big advantage is that you can apply all the withered you need at the cost of 1 gem, which is instant (Withering Step). Lowering resistances needs more investment usually.

It's also noteworthy that the new Elementalist has only one branch negatively interacting with Blackfire (Shaper of FLames buffing exposures). That leaves 5 amazing nodes to pick from for a Blackflame-Elementalist. Chieftain atm relies on "increased fire damage taken" so he won't use Blackflame.

Btw I'm pretty sure you didn't mean that, but just to be sure: Lowering resistances works (Exposure, EE,...). "Elemental Penetration" does not affect DOTs/Ailments as these aren't hits (and only hits penetrate).

To reiterate :

DOTS DO NOT BENEFIT FROM PENETRATION


penetration requires a HIT. dots do not hit.

Wait, DOTS dont benefit in any way shape or form? I thought by giving an enemy lets say -20% fire res, it would make the base hit higher and therefore a higher base dot.

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TownsendX wrote:

Wait, DOTS dont benefit in any way shape or form? I thought by giving an enemy lets say -20% fire res, it would make the base hit higher and therefore a higher base dot.

Reducing the Enemies Resistance is entirely different from Penetration.

Resistance Reduction (from Exposure, Flammability etc.) works just fine with ignite. Has nothing to do with the "base damage", but simply because Ignite deals fire damage which is impacted by enemy resistance.

But Elemental Penetration (from Fire Penetration Support or The Wise Oak) does NOT work for Damage over Time. Penetration always requires a Hit.