Perfect Agony + chaos

I have read this post https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/14674505

essence drain is not a ailment, but chaos is a ailment: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ailment

So does it work with chaos damage?
Also works with spells over time?

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drakgoku wrote:

but chaos is a ailment

No. but Poison is. they're a different things.

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drakgoku wrote:

Also works with spells over time?

No.


in short, Perfect Agony work with Ignite, Poison, Bleed, that all.

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Ozxell wrote:

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drakgoku wrote:

but chaos is a ailment

No. but Poison is. they're a different things.


I don't understand why they relate poison to chaos as an ailment

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drakgoku wrote:

I don't understand why they relate poison to chaos as an ailment

Chaos is a type of damage,
Poison is a type of ailment that does chaos damage over time.

Perfect agony increases your Poison damage but skill like essence drain is not poison its just deal chaos damage over time doesn't make it become poison.

Well, from what you tell me, I understand that a hit of chaos will produce poison like debuf. For example Viper Strike.

"poison is a debuff that deals chaos damage over time"
I mean, if you combine:
Essense drain + Lesser Poison Support + Poison Support, with Perfect Agony, could it work?

Although in the definition of essense drain it says this:
Modifiers to Spell Damage apply to this skill's Damage Over Time Effect: Modifiers to spell damage only affect the damage over time effect of Essence Drain granted by the gem and do not affect other sources of damage over time which may be applied by the skill, such as poison or Decay Support.

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drakgoku wrote:

Well, from what you tell me, I understand that a hit of chaos will produce poison like debuf. For example Viper Strike.

"poison is a debuff that deals chaos damage over time"
I mean, if you combine:
Essense drain + Lesser Poison Support + Poison Support, with Perfect Agony, could it work?

Although in the definition of essense drain it says this:
Modifiers to Spell Damage apply to this skill's Damage Over Time Effect: Modifiers to spell damage only affect the damage over time effect of Essence Drain granted by the gem and do not affect other sources of damage over time which may be applied by the skill, such as poison or Decay Support.

when ED hits the enemy, there will be 2 instances of damage over time applied to the enemy one is ED Over time and another one is Poison.

if the hit is critical then perfect agony will increase the poison damage but not the essence drain's damage over time.

Ok understood. Thank you.

ED consists of 2 portions: flat damage and DoT.

The initial hit (flat chaos damage) is able to inflict poison, as long as you have chance to poison. So the setup in your example can poison indeed, and can trigger perfect agony.

The secondary DoT is completely unsupported by perfect agony, because it's considered chaos DoT but not poison/ailment, and in addition DoTs can't crit.

Basically speaking, the aforementioned setup isn't worth it at all.
Because ED's flat chaos is low, also poison requires as many hits per second as possible to function as expected.