Doryani's Prototype + Cyclone Impale ?

Hi there!

I've been working on a build that utilize Doryani's Prototype with cyclone using the Champion ascendancy from the duelist. I went with Champion for the added armor to survive the lightning hits and it seems to work just fine. I'm still saving for the Divine Flesh to reduce the lightning DoTs, but meanwhile I'm surviving by moving around those DoTs

I've got some questions regarding support gems for Cyclone:

I'm currently using:
[Cyclone - Impale Support - Melee Physical Damage Support - Physical to Lightning Support - Elemental Damage with Attacks Support - Rage Support]

Also using Augyre for full lightning conversion. What I'm trying to do here is trying to stack as much of physical damage as I can with Rage and impale (From Master of Metal ((6 - 12)*7)).

Is this approach worth investing in Rage and the added damage from Master of Metal? Or should I just skip impales and rage for Elemental Focus Support and more elemental stuff?

Also tried with Brain Rattler, and PoB seems to say it will give me more damage, but when I tried in game, the damage doesn't seem comparable at all. (Loosing the -50 lightning res from Maligaro's Lens with this approach) Not sure if PoB calculates the Doryani's Prototype damage...I'm still very confused by PoB.

Also, is Herald of Lightning better then Wrath in a scenario like this?

Here are some of my Items:


Passive tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAHcAecFLQVmC2EUIBRNFewWbxhqGJEaOBpVG7QdFB8YIAYhYCPTI-okqicvJ1kppTD4M2w0PjZiNug26TgwOUk6UjrYPCg8LUCgQzFHfkz_TipQR1H7VbVYB1nzWjJeE18_YSFko2S1ZU1mnmebaPJxhXIPdO108XfleC9673uMe9R85YNfhJSE2YTviXGK8I9Gj2CQVZkrmmqboZ7Nn4mhI6HZogCnMK4-r2yxBbkdvJ-9Nr6nv_vBBMEIxq7KkM0W1ljaudrB42rkUeRV6Ubpuexc7w7wH_rS_Ev-WA==?accountName=Bssnator&characterName=Chepas_trop_Bssnator

one thing that might be boffo is an Avian twins talisman that is like 50% lightning damage taken as (other element). Most of us throw those away but in this case it could help you cut corners on some armour stacking.

Impale or conversion. Pick one. They dont work together.

Do Attacks not Impale even if physical damage is 0? My intention is to keep 7 impales on enemy for the bonus physical damage of Master of Metal

impale does not work with non physical damage.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Impale

When a hit applies impale to a target, 10% of that hit's physical damage is recorded


you'd be much better off with another support and another ascendancy choice.

I understand that Impale has no benefit to this build. But...

How exactly do Impale get added to enemies? Let's say we have 100% chance to impale. Does any Attack (Including elemental attacks) apply Impale? or does only physical damage apply Impale?

Wondering if I benefit at all from the added "You and nearby Allies deal 6 - 12 added physical damage for each impale on enemy" from Master of Metal

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Bssnator wrote:

Wondering if I benefit at all from the added "You and nearby Allies deal 6 - 12 added physical damage for each impale on enemy" from Master of Metal

no. since you can't deal phys damage at all.

Well, if impale do get applied, would the added physical damage from Master of Metal get converted to lightning with "Physical to Lightning Support" and "Augyre Void Scepter"?

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Ozxell wrote:

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Bssnator wrote:

Wondering if I benefit at all from the added "You and nearby Allies deal 6 - 12 added physical damage for each impale on enemy" from Master of Metal

no. since you can't deal phys damage at all.

Well, if impale do get applied, would the added physical damage from Master of Metal get converted to lightning with "Physical to Lightning Support" and "Augyre Void Scepter"?

Even if it did get the damage thats kind of a waste of an ascendancy point.

I know you want it for the armor but maybe plug it in is as a massive dodge/evade raider? Get sweet movespeed and damage between onslaught and frenzy charges.

Or just do raider with iron reflexes if it seems like it would be to squishy.