Cyclone Radius vs AOE ??

Cyclone, radius and AOE... I am having trouble wrapping my head around the difference. The skill description on the wiki says that radius stays the same but AOE can be expanded. Playing the game I see the total circle getting bigger when I add AOE. How is that not expanding the radius when radius by definition is the distance from the center to border of a circle? What is the difference and how does it impact the mechanics of the skill?

Thanks!

im not sure what you're reading...


this is from the wiki

Area of Effect: The base radius of Cyclone is 11 (not dependent on weapon range) plus 1 radius per channeling stage. Any additional melee range will increase the total area (not the radius) by 8% per 1 melee range. The total area is also affected by area of effect modifiers.


each integer of radius increase is the same, so you can ONLY gain +radius with gem levels and channeling stage. Any AOE increases DO increase the aoe, but theyre calculated as 'increased aoe', not as increased radius.

So both increase the size of cyclone? There isn't two separate things going on?

yes, both increase the size. but radius increases dont have diminishing returns like % aoe increases do. which is why weapon range no longer increases radius, but gives 8% aoe.

Ah, so that is what it is. Anything within the radius is stronger than those that extend to the out reaches of the AoE?

The damage is the same anywhere within the area. The diminishing returns that Thror mentioned is diminishing returns for the size (area), not the damage.

To keep it simple, both increase the area. What's important is how much it increases. So you need some kind of comparison between radius and area.

If you have passive nodes or gear that increase weapon radius, it is converted to area instead of radius. So a +1 increase in weapon radius (weapon range) is converted to 8% increase in area. So if you want to compare them, think of +1 increase in radius the same as 8% increase in area.