Placement of large cluster jewel notables is not random

From playing around with large cluster jewels, it seems as though the placement of the notables are always in alphabetical order rather than being placed randomly within an 8 passive large cluster jewel with 3 notables and 2 sockets.

The 2 closer notables are always the first 2 notables in alphabetical order, and the 3rd notable will always be the furthest away placed between the 2 sockets. This means if you are only looking for 2 specific notables and one of them is the second last in alphabetical order out of the potential mod list you will have to roll 3 exact mods, thereby increasing the difficulty of getting the mods you want.

As an example:

https://imgur.com/AAsmAIC

This is the only roll which will ever have Deep Cuts and Martial Prowess as the 2 closer nodes on the tree. Vicious Skewering will always be placed the furthest because it is last in alphabetical order. If you refer to the below list, all the other potential prefixes other than Vicious Skewering are above Martial Prowess if you order them alphabetically, hence if you roll any other prefix Martial Prowess will always be in the notable slot between the 2 sockets.

https://imgur.com/fSH9ANE

Why does this matter? If you only want 2 specific notables and 2 sockets, that only requires 5 points to path to all the nodes. If using the above example I specifically want Deep Cuts and Martial Prowess, I need to roll the exact 3 mods of Deep Cuts/Martial Prowess/Vicious Skewering to get the jewel I want.

https://imgur.com/l6Q6ncC
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if you have a 3 notable jewel with 2 jewel sockets
the 2 prefix notables will be the first ones, and the suffix slot behind both the jewel sockets

don't post screenshots from POB as a bug in the game either, POB is not a GGG program

if a jewel in the game is not putting the suffix notable in the right spot that would be a bug
If the 2 prefix notables will always be the first ones, then how do you explain Vicious Projectiles always be placed furthest away between the 2 jewel sockets?
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Alegu wrote:
If the 2 prefix notables will always be the first ones, then how do you explain Vicious Projectiles always be placed furthest away between the 2 jewel sockets?


bug with POB, your screenshot is not from the game.
Have you actually tested this or are you just talking shit. I've tested this in game too, but OK guy.
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Alegu wrote:
Have you actually tested this or are you just talking shit. I've tested this in game too, but OK guy.


then post screenshots from the game, the prefixes are supposed to be the closest with suffix behind the jewel sockets.
Why it is a bug???? POB became an official software now?
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For people saying its always suffix on top, it is not.

Every notables has an id or a weighting to it, and depending on said id it has priority of being in slot 1, 2 or 3

for proof heres in game screen shots of a prefix on top.

PoB has been updated a few weeks ago to always be right when it comes to order.

https://imgur.com/a/c1wBtvC

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