No progression: wathstones dont drop no matter how much I play

I had planned to play right now but decided against it cause it feels I cant progress anymore and am forced to just play low level maps forever and that just aint no fun for me.

ive watched dozens and dozens of videos where ppl explain with arrows pointing this or that way, trying to explain when and where stones drop but there is no one place, an offical place like the wiki, where they explain exactly how everything associated with stones works and how they drop and where. I tried to find such a place but I couldnt.

Wheres a place to ask those questions? Dont say this forum, cause good luck even getting answers here. I asked some basic questions concerning my class and was basically ignored in both instances in the class section and in the general discussion. I saw a few begginer questions in between all the class guides as well. Basic questions from other ppl and they were ingored almost always.

Meaning, I cant really continue playing as I feel I cant progress and am forced to play low level maps over and oever again and you cant get the information on how exactly the stones work cause there is no such a place where it is explained.

Where it explains what it means that one region says I got a stone from there but I do not have that stone. What does that mean? Is that a bug?

I have 10 more such questions but I cant find the answeres to those questions and what works for other ppl (e.g. playing 3 maps of the correct tier of that region to sapwn the first encounter and to get the first stone of a region) doesnt work for me.

And sadly, this forum isnt really responding. When beginners/casuals ask basic qustions then they tend to be ignored.

I feel that I cant get the relevant information on how basic game features operate and it doesnt really work to ask basic questions here cause theyre ignored. So as somebody that doesnt understand a game feature I cant find an offical place where it details all the conditions and aspects of those watchtsones and youre depended on ppl that are playing the game.

But try to ask basic questions in thie forum. And ive seen other ppl ask basic begginer stuff as well and they get ignored.

Im not gonna take the time to post other questions cause it feels its a waste.

ive stopped playing cause I feel cheated out of my progress. I was playing red maps and t15 maps before this patch. tooke me forever to get to high levels with this one char im playing. Took me years.

Now, all that progress is gone and instaed, im forced to play low level maps forever and I cannot progress and you gotta try and chase that information on how it works in a forum where you wont find much help as a beginner.

I had planned to play today but I dont think Ill play at all anymore. There was always this end goal of finally beating the toughest end game bosses. I was almost there before this patch and had already fought some of those bosses. Now im being pushed back completly to the beggining of mapping again basically and it is impossible to understand how to get watchstones.

Meaning, I cant reach bosses anymore and am forced to just play low level maps over and over.

Im not gonna do that.

Maybe devs can take that as feedback. Up until this point, I enjoyed the game over the years and came back once in a while as a casual player. But it is impossible to understand how it works with the watchstones. I tried I really did. Spend allmost the entire day yesterday but I still dont understand how exactly it works.

I wont spend even one minute more on trying to understand how it works. And just being forced to play the lowest tier of maps is no fun for me. Thats why I stopped playing.

Didnt play muuch but I did play this game. But this kinda kills it for me.

And im also disappointed with the community here. Its not only me. Ive seen other ppl ask questions but theyre just ignored in the forum. And without any offical detailed guides how exactly it works the only other opion are other players to explain how it works.

None of those 2 options are availalbe in this game though.

Well....rant over.

Blessings to anybody who took theh time to read it all. But I felt like at least I explain why I dont play anymore so maybe the rant cant at least serve as feedback or not. Who knows.

I know you're upset but from seeing your characters it seems you play on standard..

Looks like there was a bug with standard map system I think? Idk really. Sorry can't help you :/

My understanding of the system is this: you can socket 4 stones to reach a max level of t16. Each stone is obtained from.1 of 4 bosses. Each stone obtained in an area from.a boss counts as one of 4 boss completions for that REGION. once all 4 are obtained in that region you can socket them wherever you need to to spawn bosses in other regions. If you click left stick in the atlas it highlights a region and gives you feedback on which stones you've obtained from each so you can see which influence you need. It also tells you how many pocketed stones you need for that region to spawn the elder slayers you have remaining. Sirus will be offered via zana after some time. I'm sure its after 2 or 3 regions have had all 4 bosses slain as I had him as an option early on and I was far from done defeating elder slayers. Hope this helps. Enjoy

1region only drops 4 stone difrent colour, u need to do other region but not spaming same region to get all 32 stones.

First check Zana if you feel you have defeated a Conqueror and still don't have the stone. She will give it to you.

Second find a region that you have three maps for and run them as either magic/Rare/RareCorrupted (ignore people who say you might be able to run them white) Take note that when you filter by region it will highlight all maps possible in that region, you have to manually figure out what map Tier you need to run based on how many stone are in the region citadel (not storage area). Put these three maps in your stash and verify that when you mouse over them the region maps highlight.

Run the maps, when you get the area influenced with influence you will notice that the conqueror does some trash talking and creates some of his annoying features to keep you on your toes and give you a preview of what is come in the boss fight. Eventually he will say to check whatshisname and zana in your hideout for a ! mark above them. Do that and Zana will have the option to enter the boss instance. Defeat the boss which creates a portal to the Conqueror fight. Win, pick up stone (or get it from Zana)

GGG has stated that we can expect some changes this week so if your Atlas is really bugged this might help.

Overall while I still find POE fun, this is by far most intuitive game design I have ever seen, but look at all the nice player interaction we have trying to figure it out while they took their holidays ;-)

You need to learn to be specific when you ask questions.
If you had mentioned that you play standard and run legacy maps, then that's your problem.

Wow...I almost never find a post so long winded I won’t finish it. Hopefully I didn’t miss anything vital you snuck into all the moping to us saying we aren’t willing to help you...

Are your watchstones actually socketed into the alter? You can spawn 1 conqueror per zone without any, but subsequent encounters require an upgraded atlas.

I have generally seen two kinds of atlas problem posts. Folks who have spawned Sirus at least once and are suddenly having problems they didn't have before; and folks who can't even get started with influence.

The first group is pretty clearly bug related. The folks who can't get started largely seem to be user error.

It's difficult to respond usefully to a post like this without more info. A pic of your atlas state is also useful.

1. It looks like you are playing in standard. Did you auto-complete some of the atlas with a legacy map? To what level?

2. Did you get Zana to spawn? (This is rng but happens pretty quickly, so I assume yes.)

3. How many citadels (of the eight total) have you uncovered? This also happens pretty quickly, but you don't mention whether citadel spawn is a problem for you.

4. How many times have you been able to spawn influence? It sounds like maybe none. But if you were you able to spawn influence, did you also spawn the conqueror, defeat them, and get their stone?

5. How many stones, if any, do you currently have?

6. Which regions have you tried running maps - inner or corner, or both? With or without stones socketed? (ie. have you run anything other than the initial white maps that are showing on the atlas with no stones socketed?)

7. Is there any influence currently spawned on the map or do you have an active quest to visit a conqueror's citadel?

8. You mention that the storage bucket is telling you that you have a stone from a region, but you don't think you have that stone. Do you mean that you defeated that conqueror in that region and didn't get a stone, or that you never actually fought the conqueror it's saying you defeated?

And FWIW, running the atlas in standard, with or without doing some legacy completion, is not by itself a problem. I did some legacy completion in standard to get a jump start, and then played as normal. Everything worked exactly as expected. I think legacy conversion is broken, but legacy completion worked ok for me. (Again, I just did a few levels to get started, but I don't think that messes with your ability to run the story line and quests.)

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GreyLensman wrote:

I have generally seen two kinds of atlas problem posts. Folks who have spawned Sirus at least once and are suddenly having problems they didn't have before; and folks who can't even get started with influence.

The first group is pretty clearly bug related. The folks who can't get started largely seem to be user error.

It's difficult to respond usefully to a post like this without more info. A pic of your atlas state is also useful.

1. It looks like you are playing in standard. Did you auto-complete some of the atlas with a legacy map? To what level?

2. Did you get Zana to spawn? (This is rng but happens pretty quickly, so I assume yes.)

3. How many citadels (of the eight total) have you uncovered? This also happens pretty quickly, but you don't mention whether citadel spawn is a problem for you.

4. How many times have you been able to spawn influence? It sounds like maybe none. But if you were you able to spawn influence, did you also spawn the conqueror, defeat them, and get their stone?

5. How many stones, if any, do you currently have?

6. Which regions have you tried running maps - inner or corner, or both? With or without stones socketed? (ie. have you run anything other than the initial white maps that are showing on the atlas with no stones socketed?)

7. Is there any influence currently spawned on the map or do you have an active quest to visit a conqueror's citadel?

8. You mention that the storage bucket is telling you that you have a stone from a region, but you don't think you have that stone. Do you mean that you defeated that conqueror in that region and didn't get a stone, or that you never actually fought the conqueror it's saying you defeated?

And FWIW, running the atlas in standard, with or without doing some legacy completion, is not by itself a problem. I did some legacy completion in standard to get a jump start, and then played as normal. Everything worked exactly as expected. I think legacy conversion is broken, but legacy completion worked ok for me. (Again, I just did a few levels to get started, but I don't think that messes with your ability to run the story line and quests.)

Thx for the replies. I really appreciate it but I gave up on this game.That ppl actually answer came as a complete suprise. Usually nobody ever answers to beginner questions in this forum. Its too much effort to try and find the answers yourself and there is no once place where you can read about all the rules. This game was too frustrating to me.

I had several questions concerning my summoner, concerning watch stones....but to get answers in this game is virtually impossible. I dont wanne play this game anymore.

Im waiting for maybe Diable 4 or Wolcen. But this game aint for me. not cause I dont like the genre or cause I dislike the core gameplay. The only reason is that it is impossible to get basic intel on how certain things work. Ive asked a number of questions and basically this I think is the only time someobdy even answered. Im actually suprised.

You ppl that answered here.....you are rare in pow. Super rare. And honestly, this was more of a rant. I didnt even expect anybody to answer cause usually nobody answers and so I ranted and raged but never expected anybody answering.

Its too rare that anyboddy here explains anything though and its just way too tedious to try any gather all the relevant information by watching dozens of videos or by reading 100 pages threads and hope your questions will be answered. That takes sooo many hours, just reseraching and not even playing.

If this forum was more responsive, then that would be different. But its not.

And since there is no one place where you can actually read how the mechanics work youre just screwed.

I think this is the only game I eve rplayed, where it was impossible to get basic information of game features. Im 38 and so far.....no, I dont think I can remember any other game where you simply wont get basic information. The game just leaves you alone with it.

Thats why I can also not recommend this game.

Once again, thx alot, im more intersted in diablo 4 and this Wolcen game.