Meat Shield support + Mirror Arrow, Blink Arrow

Meat Shield Support says:

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Minions from Supported Skills are Defensive (Defensive minions have their targeting range lowered to a maximum value. They always target enemies around you)

But when supporting Mirror Arrow or Blink Arrow, the Clone minions do not walk. When the player walks out of the Clone's range, it stands stationary. It will not attack enemies near the Player.

That's not very Defensive. I suggest that these "Defensive" Clone minions follow the Player whenever they are not busy attacking.


Feeding Frenzy Support is similar: Although it makes these Clones "Aggressive", their behavior is unaffected. I suggest that these Clone minions move to attack when enemies are behind obstacles (or around corners).

The details of Blink Arrow and Mirror Arrow don't state that the Clones must be immobile, so I believe the new minion behavior support gems should motivate these Clones to walk when they are not busy shooting at valid targets.

Afaik Mirror Arror and Blink Arrow minions are always stationary. They don't move at all. Meatshield and Feeding Frenzy manipulate the range of movement and the behaviour, but with a movementspeed of 0, this changed behaviour has no effect.

But I agree with you, that the Clone gems should clearify that the clones are stationary.

Letting them move would be the alternative, but I think this would cause future adjustments.

+1

Meat Shield + Ranged Minion has bad interaction imo

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Judaspriester wrote:

But I agree with you, that the Clone gems should clearify that the clones are stationary.

Letting them move would be the alternative, but I think this would cause future adjustments.

I noticed that the Clones created by the glove mod "of Reflection" are capable of movement, so letting the Arrow clones move wouldn't be unheard of. But it might make these skills appear messier (or negatively affect their roles as decoys).

When using gems that are supposed to affect minion behavior, though, they might as well move.

As for balance, the Arrow clone skills are heavily limited by their default 3 second cooldown.
Considering clone movement would only occur when the minion is not shooting, I believe the effect on balance would be making the clones less-bad in cramped maps - becoming more comparable to their performance on large, open maps.

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MasterTBC wrote:

Meat Shield + Ranged Minion has bad interaction imo

Pretty true. But if a player decides that is worth making the Clone(s) choose to follow them, they might make that decision.

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MasterTBC wrote:

Meat Shield + anything has bad interaction period.

Fixed it for you. ^^

It's summoner meta right? And hey there is a new summoner chest, must be good right? But why can I buy it already 6-linked for less than 1ex all the time? I tell you because it has fücking meat shield.

This chest is so horrible it's unbelievable. It takes literally hours before my spectres do anything other than running one screen behind me. The only way to make them do anything fast is by pressing convocation all the time. Wasted 8 hours of gametime while testing this piece of garbage.

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MasterTBC wrote:

Meat Shield + anything has bad interaction period.

I actually like having my AG survive and provide auras and buffs without the need to repurchase items for it.

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666lol666 wrote:

Fixed it for you. ^^

It's summoner meta right? And hey there is a new summoner chest, must be good right? But why can I buy it already 6-linked for less than 1ex all the time? I tell you because it has fücking meat shield.

This chest is so horrible it's unbelievable. It takes literally hours before my spectres do anything other than running one screen behind me. The only way to make them do anything fast is by pressing convocation all the time. Wasted 8 hours of gametime while testing this piece of garbage.

You do realize this chest isn't meant to be used by summoners, right? Wait, you don't.

Read its stats CAREFULLY. One line at a time.

There's this one particular stat that says:
"7% INCREASED DAMAGE PER RAISED ZOMBIE"

The whole point of Meat Shield on this chest is for your zombies to die less, and for the increased damage/reduced ele damage taken bonuses to stay up.

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666lol666 wrote:

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MasterTBC wrote:

Meat Shield + anything has bad interaction period.

Fixed it for you. ^^

It's summoner meta right? And hey there is a new summoner chest, must be good right? But why can I buy it already 6-linked for less than 1ex all the time? I tell you because it has fücking meat shield.

This chest is so horrible it's unbelievable. It takes literally hours before my spectres do anything other than running one screen behind me. The only way to make them do anything fast is by pressing convocation all the time. Wasted 8 hours of gametime while testing this piece of garbage.

You're meant to go melee with this chest.
Go full zombies, go in melee range, and they smash everything, that's how it works.

Range spectres in it though ? You are just miss-using the item.

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Ydoum wrote:

Read its stats CAREFULLY. One line at a time.

There's this one particular stat that says:
"7% INCREASED DAMAGE PER RAISED ZOMBIE"

The whole point of Meat Shield on this chest is for your zombies to die less, and for the increased damage/reduced ele damage taken bonuses to stay up.

I do have 10 zombies too.