[3.8] CHAOSMANCER (100% CHAOS Spiders and Zombies) Build. <2 min UBER ELDER. INSANE Clear Speed!

For quite a while i had this sick idea to combine Spiders and Zombies. After all minion buffs arriving for minions in 3.8 it has become a true reality. Zombies are tough and strong, while Spiders are immortal and fast. With new skill gems like Feeding Frenzy and new items like Triad Grip, Rotting Legion and Aukuna's Will it is now possible to do really insane stuff.
Combining the best of two worlds i bring you the strongest minion build i've played so far: CHAOSMANCER. Also known as AFKmancer. A 100% phys->chaos conversion Spider and Zombie build which allows you to stand still or just run around and yet do all hardest content.
Check out my other MINION builds out there! :
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2192730/
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2255988
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2563355
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2146515

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VIDEO BUILD/GUIDE: https://youtu.be/HUlvfP6AIxc
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http://www.angryroleplayer.com/path-of-exile-builds/chaosmancer-100-chaos-spiders-zombies-path-of-exile-build/
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How does it work, in general?
We summon 15 Zombies and 20 Spiders, as well as 4 support Spectres and 1 Golem and let them do all job. With a 4 white sockets Triad Grip gloves we convert all physical damage to chaos, thus making them all immiune to reflect and at the same time allowing to deliver MAXIMUM damage to bosses (bosses have 40% elemental resistance but only 25% chaos).
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1) PROS
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+safe across all content. Monsters / bosses offscreening.
+Minions are reflect immune
+insanely fast for map clearing because spiders are SICK.
+high sustain and toughness through Zombie leech, 15k armour, flasks.. etc..
+easy 7000 life without any overinvestment or Kaom's.
+ridiculous boss damage unlike i've ever seen (and i've seen a lot). Uber Elder <2 minute kills.
+need only ONE six-link

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2) CONS
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-definitely expensive at the start of the league. Especially MINION league. lol.
-Corrupted gear can be expensive. 4 White Socket Triad Grip is 6EX now.
PS: Corrupted boots are not necessary.

3) Skill Tree Progression / Path of Building / Ascendancy / Bandits
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Path of building:
End-game Setup: https://pastebin.com/jiVXx5r7
For Ascendancy: Mindless Agression, Unnatural Strength, Bone Barrier, Commander of Darkness \ Mistress of Sacrifice.
Bandits: Kill All

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4) Early Levelling Gear / Skills
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Get Zombies in act 1 and start using them early on. Add SRS and Skeletons as you progress. I personally used Skeletons till the point when i got Arakaali's Fang. Give your zombies a leech node early on.
2L Zombies: Zombies-Minion Damage
3L Zombies: Zombies-Summon Phantasm on Kill-Minion Damage
4L Zombies: Zombies-Summon Phantasm on Kill-Minion Damage-Melee Phys.Damage (melee phys gem can be bought from Yeena in act 2)
5L Zombies: Zombies-Minion Damage-Melee Phys.Damage-Feeding Frenzy-Multistrike
4L Skeletons: Skeletons-Multistrike-Minion Damage-Melee Phys.Damage
There are many cheap uniques that you can use:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Sidhebreath
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Skullhead
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Baron
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Aukuna%27s_Will
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bones_of_Ullr
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Wraithlord
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mon%27tregul%27s_Grasp
If you don't have money to buy a good mace with minion damage then just get Scourge
. The real problem here is hitting something every 4 seconds.
The easiest way to get minion damage is to use BOUND FOSSIL though, on a level 75 MACE!
http://poedb.tw/us/item.php?n=Bound+Fossil
You can craft up to 80% Minion Damage this way.
But BETTER way is to drop %Minion Damage gear from a level 3 Temple of Atzaotl room called https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Hybridisation_Chamber (Hatchery->Automation Lanb>Hybridisation_Chamber) or just buy yourself a 70+ (previously was 90+) Minion Mace. They are pretty cheap now (1-5C) and you can start using them since level 40! And you can add a minion veiled mode to it and that would be your GG weapon till you switch to an Arakaali's Fang dagger.
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SPECTRES:
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I use 2 Carnage Chieftains and 2 Host Chieftains. Link them with Blood Magic and they will more reliably spam charges. Even without blood Magic they still will give charges, but after the nerfs NOT SO CRAZY.
Carnage Chieftains can be found in Act Old Fields. They generate Frenzy Charges for your minions and you.
https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Carnage+Chieftain
Host Chieftains can be found in Act 7 Ashen Fields. They give Power Charges
https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Host+Chieftain

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5) My Actual Gear / End-Game Skills
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For jewels looks for flat physical minion damage or chaos damage, minion attack speed, minion damage if you've used minion skill recently, resists, life.
For Uber Lab enchant: Zombies Damage, Auras reduced reservation, something useful!
5L Zombies: Zombies-Minion Damage-Melee Phys.Damage-Feeding Frenzy-Multistrike
6L Zombies with Triad Grip: Zombies-Minion Damage-Feeding Frenzy-lvl.4.Empower (put Ruthless or Melee.Phys if missing)-Withering.Touch
Spiders 3L (mapping): Minion.Damage-Melee.Splash-Damage.on.Full.Life
Spiders 3L (bossing): Minion.Damage-Ruthless-Damage.on.Full.Life
For the gear i would prioritize:
1) Tabula Rasa and any levelling gear
2) lvl.20: Astramentis
3) lvl.26: Baron
4) lvl.31: Aukuna's Will (keep in mind your Spirit Offering will EXPLODE zombies!)
4) lvl.40: 70% Minion Damage 1H weapon + the Oak shield
6) Grip of the Council
7) lvl.49: Alberon's Warpath
8) lvl.53: Arakaali's Fang
9) Helm enchant / jewels / TRIAD GRIP / Saqawal's Nest

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6) Flasks
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7) Pantheon Gods
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Major: Arakaali
Minor: Shakari

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8) Hardcore Viable or not?
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Very viable. Just watch the LEGION!! Legion rares are SUPER DEADLY still!

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9) FOR THE RICH GUYS
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+1-2 Chest, GG jewels, Lethal pride, Unnatural Instinct, Corrupted gear, +1 Boots, % strength corrupted Cyclopean Coil.

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MORE VIDEOS:
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UBER ELDER 2 minute DEATHLESS (Melee Splash)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc0jf6bUbm8
UBER ELDER 1-45 minute DEATHLESS (Ruthless)
https://youtu.be/DDlAKPzoMJo
UBER ATZIRI DEATHLESS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-D1ufdHCkI
AFK Yellow Tier Elder Fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQGAnzZ5-WE
T16 Chimeral Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjwSfUTRLqU

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FAQ
1) Animated Guardian setup if you need it
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He is not entirely necessary, just to beef up your damage even more.
Start using Animated Guardian when he gets to at least level 19. Better use him in a +1-3 minion Helm.
Gems: Minion Life, Elemental Army are VERY USEFUL to keep him alive in high-tier content.
These items make him last the most and be most useful/effective:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dying_Breath
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Relentless_Fury
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Surgebinders
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Southbound
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Leer_Cast
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Victario%27s_Flight
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bloodbond
you can also use https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ambu%27s_Charge, but Bloodbond is better for Uber Elder.
Drop them all on the ground and click (in a map on in lab) on Animated Guardian to let him use these items.
If he dies = all will be lost and you have to rebuy/restock/reequip again.
If you LOGOUT or quit the game you don't have to rebuy/reequip everything. Just resummon him.
Use https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Surgebinders instead of Southbound if you want to equip Relentless Fury as well, as the gloves prevent culling.

2) Why Chaos?
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A lot of damage. Reflect Immune. Wither stacks.

3) How can i get a four white socket Triad Grip?
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Just buy it. Or corrupt a 4 socket one in a Temple Corruption room (need to be lucky!).

4) You have some very expensive gear here!
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it's a min-maxed build. Of cause i do. I max out all my builds, but they still can do all content on a budget.

5) What is more important: gloves, chest? boots? baron? Fang?
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Baron with Boots. Basic Baron setup is important.This is a 50% Zombie build

6) How can i easily reach 1200 strength?
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50+ strength on both rings. Astramentis. Cyclopean Coil.
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Last edited by Angry_Roleplayer on Oct 14, 2019, 5:07:05 AM
Last bumped on Nov 8, 2019, 2:15:53 PM
Nice build, saw the video before going to this thread, but I may do this as my first necro build for the league as I've been running miner builds this league so far.

The 4W gloves aren't cheap and getting close to 6ex, so I guess 3W ones are a cheaper alternative.

Out of curiosity, what's your overall total dps for both zombies and spiders for Uber Elder/Shaper?
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reciprocate wrote:
Nice build, saw the video before going to this thread, but I may do this as my first necro build for the league as I've been running miner builds this league so far.

The 4W gloves aren't cheap and getting close to 6ex, so I guess 3W ones are a cheaper alternative.

Out of curiosity, what's your overall total dps for both zombies and spiders for Uber Elder/Shaper?

3W will do the job anyway
Total DPS is very hard to estimate since POB does no chaos conversion.
Just by default numbers it's about 3 million on spiders and 2-2.5 million on zombies. So about 5 million as it seems. I would say considering phasing bosses it's pretty accurate
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Even if the Spiders can't be damaged and are always on full life, what makes the More damage on full life better than just melee physical? Does the melee physical gems multiplier not convert over to the chaos damage?
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iEUnbreakable wrote:
Even if the Spiders can't be damaged and are always on full life, what makes the More damage on full life better than just melee physical? Does the melee physical gems multiplier not convert over to the chaos damage?

identical dps, so does not matter what you use
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Why ignore Soul of Steel? It is more Valuable than Juggernaut even without extra resists in mind.
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Why ignore Soul of Steel? It is more Valuable than Juggernaut even without extra resists in mind.

Not ignoring it, you can take it if you go over 95+ of cause. I already have 150+ resists and 15k armours, so i prefer extra life if possible
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Why ignore Soul of Steel? It is more Valuable than Juggernaut even without extra resists in mind.

Not ignoring it, you can take it if you go over 95+ of cause. I already have 150+ resists and 15k armours, so i prefer extra life if possible


It have +1 max resists and 5% additional phys reduction, witch is huge and way bigger than 300 hp. You are no where near to be capped on phys damage reduction even with flasks and it is easily achievable on necro in 3.8. You can fit Determination instead of Purity of Elements with some additional "reduced reserved mana" from helmet or shield and effectively boost personal defenses and defenses of the minions.

Also you are in 2 nodes from Eldritch Battery and effectively can forget about mana management and have 0 mana. Only "mana" management you would need is "0.4% of energy shield regenerated per second" on Amulet or elsewhere.
Last edited by Atataforthewin on Oct 11, 2019, 10:54:10 AM
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Why ignore Soul of Steel? It is more Valuable than Juggernaut even without extra resists in mind.

Not ignoring it, you can take it if you go over 95+ of cause. I already have 150+ resists and 15k armours, so i prefer extra life if possible


It have +1 max resists and 5% additional phys reduction, witch is huge and way bigger than 300 hp. You are no where near to be capped on phys damage reduction even with flasks and it is easily achievable on necro in 3.8. You can fit Determination instead of Purity of Elements with some additional "reduced reserved mana" from helmet or shield and effectively boost personal defenses and defenses of the minions.

Also you are in 2 nodes from Eldritch Battery and effectively can forget about mana management and have 0 mana. Only "mana" management you would need is "0.4% of energy shield regenerated per second" on Amulet or elsewhere.

From my experience most deaths are instant one-shots so i still prefer bigger life pool, and like i said you obviously can still go to Soul of Steel if you wish. It's a personal choice.
Look at my watchers eye, that's why i perfer purity. Determination is not crazy, unless you are delving really deep. mana is absolutely not an issue at all. I don't even spend it
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Last edited by Angry_Roleplayer on Oct 11, 2019, 10:58:22 AM
Yea I am pretty much into delve atm. Determination have better Watcher Eye's in my opinion, there is both additional phys deduction and block. And I pretty much started tanking after Legion one shots myself and going down to Soul of Steel on any life build. 1% more ele resists and 5% phys are better exactly on oneshots since bigger the hit the bigger effective damage reduction.

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