faster start of energy shield recharge or recovery rate?

Simple as that, whats better? faster start of energy shield recharge or increased energy shield recovery rate? (Occultist) I don't have enough ES experience to know.

Any respectable energy shield user would invest into both.

I think you´re mixing more things together.

Energy shield will automatically begin to recharge if the character does not take any damage for a certain period of time (base duration is 2s).

This can be reduced with % faster start of Energy Shield Recharge modifiers.


On the other hand energy shield recharge rate is a form of recovery.

Energy shield will stop recharging if the character takes damage. This recharge rate can be increased with % increased Energy Shield Recharge Rate modifiers.

All gaining of life, mana and Energy shield is recovery

f.e. Regeneration provides passive recovery over time.

Energy shield recovery rate (f.e. from the Shaper belt) would improve different type of ES recovery.

What build are we talking about?

idk how im mixing, I'm just trying to decide between 2 different watchers eye jewels, one has -

% increased Energy Shield Recovery Rate while affected by Discipline

the other has -

% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge while affected by Discipline

i've read that exact post you put up, but i either dont get it or its not answering me in a way that one could help more than another.

in my mind "% increased Energy Shield Recovery Rate while affected by Discipline" makes less sense to use because how quickly i "recover" the ES isnt a problem for me and I dont see how it could be a problem for anyone considering Occ's being crazy regen strong with wicked ward.

"% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge while affected by Discipline" if im reading it correctly would be much more useful because i would start regen'ing quicker.

I'm just trying to understand, one HAS to be better for a Occultist with wicked ward.

well you already know what each does. you are paying the char so you should know the best what would fit your build. there is no "this one is better, period", it always depends on specific build.

Honestly it's really hard to tell the difference and if that's the case, then whats the point of both mods can anyone make a suggestion on how i can test this better? i've just been going thru a delve, switching the watcher doing a delve, switching the watcher, its tough to see.

does anyone have a opinion to suggesting one mod over the other?

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Haurd wrote:

idk how im mixing, I'm just trying to decide between 2 different watchers eye jewels, one has -

% increased Energy Shield Recovery Rate while affected by Discipline

the other has -

% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge while affected by Discipline

i've read that exact post you put up, but i either dont get it or its not answering me in a way that one could help more than another.

in my mind "% increased Energy Shield Recovery Rate while affected by Discipline" makes less sense to use because how quickly i "recover" the ES isnt a problem for me and I dont see how it could be a problem for anyone considering Occ's being crazy regen strong with wicked ward.

There´s a difference between regenerating ES through Zealot´s Oath (and nodes associated with it such as Vile Bastion or life regen nodes) and Recharging ES through modifiers such as Wicked Ward or Essence Surge.

You can´t recharge ES while taking damage normally unless you are an Occultist with Wicked Ward allocated under the condition.

On the other hand you´re regenerating ES nonstop (taking damage or not unless it´s no regen map).

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Haurd wrote:

"% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge while affected by Discipline" if im reading it correctly would be much more useful because i would start regen'ing quicker.

I'm just trying to understand, one HAS to be better for a Occultist with wicked ward.

You would start recharging faster not regenerating.

Energy Shield Recovery Rate will affect both modifiers though.

It will multiple by 1.2-1.3 the amount of ES regenerated and recharged per sec.

On the other hand the delay period for energy shield to begin to recharge will be reduced with the second modifier (not the amount recharged / regenerated per sec).

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Rakiii wrote:

You would start recharging faster not regenerating.

Energy Shield Recovery Rate will affect both modifiers though.

im using Zealot´s Oath and Vile Bastion and life regen nodes and Wicked Ward and Essence Surge. because of this i am recharging and regenerating.
which i am in this predicament in the first place, trying to figure which is stronger.

when you say Energy Shield Recovery Rate will affect both modifiers that applies to recharging and regenerating, but not to the "start" of recharge yes?

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Haurd wrote:

when you say Energy Shield Recovery Rate will affect both modifiers that applies to recharging and regenerating, but not to the "start" of recharge yes?

Yes correct.

I think it's important to mention that while the increased Recovery Rate works multiplicatively with regeneration from Zealot's Oath and Vile Bastion and Leech, it works additively to increased Energy Shield Recharge Rate.

I personally have 87% increased Recovery Rate on one of my characters and was disappointed when I didn't recharge around 100% per second. I do get over 50% from Vile Bastion as well though.

If you have Vile Bastion or intend to recover a lot apart from recharge, increased Recovery will most likely be the better choice. It's much easier to stack faster start of recharge from other sources.