How come curse on hit doesn't work with Herald Of Agony?

As the title states, is this intentional and I just haven't seen it posted that the interaction doesn't work or is it a bug?
Last bumped on Oct 13, 2018, 7:47:54 AM
curse on hit doesn't work for minions because they don't have a concept of the socketed skill I believe
It doesn't hit. Pretty simple.
Mark has answered this before. To paraphrase:

The Curse on Hit gem specifically references a linked, socketed gem at the time the hit happens to determine what curse is applied at which level with what effects, thus respecting your curse gem and curse tree nodes. To do this, the gem must exist at the time of the hit. Minions gain your ability to reference a curse gem in your gear with Curse on Hit, but they do not gain your gear to do so; the minion does not have your equipment or your links and treats the linked curse in your gear as a separate active skill, entirely unrelated to the minion that HoAg generates. As such, the Curse on Hit effect on the minion attempts to find a relevant linked curse skill to reference, fails to do so, and thus fizzles.

This is why neither minions nor totems can make use of Curse on Hit, and why your Agony Crawler is not applying curses.
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Last edited by 1453R#7804 on Sep 4, 2018, 2:41:48 PM
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Shagsbeard wrote:
It doesn't hit. Pretty simple.
but the minion hits though, figured it would work just like the other heralds do. I'm guessing curse on hit doesn't work with the other new herald too.
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1453R wrote:
Mark has answered this before. To paraphrase:

The Curse on Hit gem specifically references a linked, socketed gem at the time the hit happens to determine what curse is applied at which level with what effects, thus respecting your curse gem and curse tree nodes. To do this, the gem must exist at the time of the hit. Minions gain your ability to reference a curse gem in your gear with Curse on Hit, but they do not gain your gear to do so; the minion does not have your equipment or your links and treats the linked curse in your gear as a separate active skill, entirely unrelated to the minion that HoAg generates. As such, the Curse on Hit effect on the minion attempts to find a relevant linked curse skill to reference, fails to do so, and thus fizzles.

This is why neither minions nor totems can make use of Curse on Hit, and why your Agony Crawler is not applying curses.


Thank you for explaining this. Real bummer but I will figure something else out then.
Does Blind works with the crawler? It's not a trigger, it connects directly to the hit of the crawler, just like the general dmg buff support gems, like eg Damage on Full Life.
Yes, Blind should work. The only reason CoH doesn't is because the crawler doesn't have the curse skill to apply, you do.
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ZACHWILDCAT wrote:
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Shagsbeard wrote:
It doesn't hit. Pretty simple.
but the minion hits though, figured it would work just like the other heralds do. I'm guessing curse on hit doesn't work with the other new herald too.



it support the active skill linked with...not the minion casted by that skill....so simple as that.
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