Hatred or anger?
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Hi I'm trying to build a spectral throw based on attack speed, critical damage and physycal damage with oni goroshi, i pretend to use kaoms heart but i'm not sure what should work better for my character, herald of ash with anger or hatred? I ask because people takes hatred but anger give some flat damage and its fire so can synegery with kaoms, can someone explain why two different elements instead of one?
Last bumped on Jan 20, 2018, 6:48:58 PM
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" "Gain x% of physical damage as y-element damage" is pretty strong because conversion mechanics mean bonuses to either physical damage or y-element damage are allowed to apply to that additional damage, which means it is a very popular choice for people who scale purely physical damage (and therefore can pick up lots of physical damage bonuses) and get a multiplicative bonus based on that. Of course, you can get some additional benefits from Chill and Freeze as well, to slow down your enemies and destroy the corpses of Frozen enemies. As to your original question... I don't know for sure. Hatred would be weaker than for a "normal" build - base physical damage of Oni-Goroshi is probably less than a comparable endgame 2-hand weapon. You can think of this as, it only applies to roughly half your damage (or, you can think of it as applying to all of your damage but with diminishing proportional returns as is usual with additive stacking - 123% phys>ele turns into 159% phys>ele). However, Anger doesn't really add that much flat fire damage... If your build is full fire conversion and full fire scaling, compared to Oni-Goroshi and no other gear, at level 90, Level 20 Anger would add (90*2.5*2.23+(83+138)/2)/(90*2.5*2.23) = 1.22023 = 22% more damage, which could outperform Hatred when considering your sources of resistance reduction and/or Ignite damage. I really wanna say, just go with whatever you want to go with. Need game info? Check out the Wiki at: https://www.poewiki.net/
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"base physical damage of Oni-Goroshi is probably less than a comparable endgame 2-hand weapon."
While true, Oni-Goroshi also doesn't have terribly low Physical Damage, and Anger just isn't that good without a bunch of Aura Effect scaling.. Anger adds 83-138 Fire Damage, Hatred adds 35% Phys as Cold. Level 80 Oni-Goroshi deals 166-253 Physical Damage, 35% of that is 58-88 - quite a lot less. However, Hatred's Damage also scales with Physical Damage modifiers. For my own Oni-Goroshi character, Fire and Cold modifiers are equal, but I also have 150% Increased Physical Damage. That difference ultimately makes Hatred almost twice as powerful. The more scaling you have on the Elemental/Fire side as opposed to Physical, the smaller this difference becomes. However, it takes some real dedication to skipping Physical Damage to make Anger actually stronger. Oni-Goroshi enjoys flat Physical Damage a lot, and Hatred continues to scale with said flat Physical Damage to boot; little things add up. Shattering enemies is also very useful - Porcupines do not release a spike nova when Shattered, for example. |
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