4GB RAM, SSD and PageFile

Sup guys, I'm currently running an AMD Ryzen 1200, 120GB SSD, Windows 10 with 4GB Ram and GT 1030, in addition, POE is well known for using lots of Ram. Keeping in mind that pagefile may cause trouble to SSDS, is it mandatory to get an extra 4gb memory stick in order to keep my ssd longevity safe?
Should I disable Windows pagefile? If so, should I disable it even with only 4GB? Ram memory prices are quite high in my country and I'm holding for a while.

Thx.

Hiya,

Congrats on the new Ryzen CPU! I have one of those myself. :)

I wouldn’t worry about the pagefile. SSD longevity has improved massively from the initial few. As a mature technology, SSDs are typically expected to last longer than HDDs. It’s stil not worth defragging one - but that’s more due to it being a waste of time than any longevity concerns.

If you buy more RAM later and have “enough” then having a pagefile wouldn’t do any harm - it won’t be used if it’s not needed. While you’re making do with 4 GB of system memory I’d definitely suggest keeping the pagefile on as it’s likely to make quite a difference.

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Sarno wrote:

Hiya,

Congrats on the new Ryzen CPU! I have one of those myself. :)

I wouldn’t worry about the pagefile. SSD longevity has improved massively from the initial few. As a mature technology, SSDs are typically expected to last longer than HDDs. It’s stil not worth defragging one - but that’s more due to it being a waste of time than any longevity concerns.

If you buy more RAM later and have “enough” then having a pagefile wouldn’t do any harm - it won’t be used if it’s not needed. While you’re making do with 4 GB of system memory I’d definitely suggest keeping the pagefile on as it’s likely to make quite a difference.

thank you!!!
yah! rizen is quite good! i had a G4500 but my motherboard failed completely (asrock H110), dunno why. I sold the cpu and with some extra Money got this ryzen, asus prime and the ssd. It's definitely better!

looking forward to play poe with thise new entry setup, specially with the ssd.

just adding that I've been testing the game for some days. My memory never goes higher than 80% usage even with full parties t13 maps (I got 4GB 2133mhz).
My gt 1030 does fail to keep 60 fps with full parties, going down to 30fps on 1600x900 resolution and almost everything set to high but anti aliasing. Things may be worse on 1080p.
If you play mostly solo tho, a GT 1030 is enough.
I think a GT 1050 may me optimal in this case.

It's worth noting that ARPGs don't tend to be as GPU-bound as other games.

If you haven't overclocked your CPU, doing so will probably improve your FPS.

I've never had issues directly with the Page File and SSDs (I have a first generation SSD stripe, and modern Samsung EVO 250 and 500). I did run into an issue a while back with memory errors related to the (god awful) driver for the ASUS Xonar DGX causing blue screens. It seemed to have some relation to that and the way I allocated across multiple drives and how much.

As for gaming, I definitely recommend getting at least 8 gigs of RAM, and 16 gigs in the future if you can catch something nice on sale. However, it really depends on how many processes and programs you run in the background (with 8 gigs being much easier to manage). If you've got a habit of running a lot of webpages, the more RAM the better.

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Sarno wrote:

It's worth noting that ARPGs don't tend to be as GPU-bound as other games.

If you haven't overclocked your CPU, doing so will probably improve your FPS.

Are you sure? I checked how loaded my system gets and cpu is around 40~60%

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adrianoafigueira wrote:

Are you sure? I checked how loaded my system gets and cpu is around 40~60%

With how many cores? :)

Most games aren’t capable of distributing an equal load on multiple cores. They’ll have one main thread which can create a bottleneck if the core it’s running on can’t keep up. For games you need to see the utilization on a per-core basis, not just the overall metric.

I’ve a Ryzen 7 1700. It has 8 cores with SMT (AMD’s equivalent of HyperThreading). Path of Exile is never going to max out my CPU, but if it wasn’t overclocked then it would absolutely bottleneck the rest of my computer. When PoE’s engine doesn’t get in the way, it probably still does.

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Sarno wrote:

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adrianoafigueira wrote:

Are you sure? I checked how loaded my system gets and cpu is around 40~60%

With how many cores? :)

Most games aren’t capable of distributing an equal load on multiple cores. They’ll have one main thread which can create a bottleneck if the core it’s running on can’t keep up. For games you need to see the utilization on a per-core basis, not just the overall metric.

I’ve a Ryzen 7 1700. It has 8 cores with SMT (AMD’s equivalent of HyperThreading). Path of Exile is never going to max out my CPU, but if it wasn’t overclocked then it would absolutely bottleneck the rest of my computer. When PoE’s engine doesn’t get in the way, it probably still does.

it's a ryzen 3 1200 4core/4threads, no smt. my res is not 1080p tho.