darkness enthroned stygian vise doesn't grant 50% effect bonus?

i dropped this belt today and equiped it.

None of my jewels got the 50% effect bonus, does it only work on "abyss jewels"? And if so, should the text be altered on the belt to resemble this fact?

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : item for reference.


I used a normal jewel with +10 str/int and +10 all resistance. None of the value's got doubled.

The mod is local.

It only applies to abyss jewels socketed in the belt itself. The wording seems to be pretty clear about that, honestly.

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viperesque wrote:

It only applies to abyss jewels socketed in the belt itself. The wording seems to be pretty clear about that, honestly.

It reads to me as if the 50% effect is applied to "socketed jewels".

Which can easily be interpreted to jewels being socketed in any location possible on the character.(including the passive tree)

there is nothing in that sentence limiting the interpretation to it being applicable to the belt alone.

There is also nothing limiting the interpretation that it only functions with abyss jewels(which is an automatic result of it only effecting the jewels inside the item, apparently)

This wording should be altered in my opinion, it's a very broad line they used.
I mean, read this without the belt in the background and tell me it can't be interpreted globally.



Peace,

-Boem-

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Vipermagi wrote:

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Boem wrote:

It reads to me as if the 50% effect is applied to "socketed jewels".

If a modifier can be local, it is local. See also, the Pariah that doesn't grant 1500 flat ES from just one ring. The wording is consistent and accurate as such.

(it would also be insanely brutally overpowered as global :/ See also, the Pariah)

Where am i disputing what your saying exactly?

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50% increased effect of socketed jewels in this item

^This is my issue, the ease at which this misunderstanding could be solved.

Peace,

-Boem-

I'll have to agree with vipermagi here, I think the wording is consistent

the other unique that takes in account all abyss all jewels (ie global) says jewels affecting you. I don't think there is an instance of 'socketed x' being global

The other thing to consider is that an when item with sockets says "[X]% effect of socketed items", it's always been local. For an item with normal sockets, "[X] to socketed gems" has always been local to that item, not "this item affects every skillgem in every socket on your character". Darkness Enthroned is an item with sockets that has an effect "on socketed items". Why would it work any differently than anything else that had an effect on its local sockets?

I can see where you're saying the confusion comes from Boem, but like Viper said, Darkness Enthroned would be hilariously busted if it was a universal booster to all jewels anywhere. Abyss jewels are already busted as hell, normal Stygian Vices have completely obsoleted any other possible rare belt in the game due to how disgustingly gud these little demonic eyeball things are. And not only can you get 10+ of them in the tree with the right build, you can ALSO get up to ten of them in your gear slots! (Darkness Enthroned, +2 Abyss sockets each in Tombfist, Bubonic Trail, Lightpoacher and Shroud of the Lightless). You can potentially get over twenty of these things in effect at the same time.

Does one belt slot allowing you to turn 20+ Abyss jewels into effectively 30+ Abyss jewels not seem maybe just a twitch too busted to be true to you?

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Vipermagi wrote:

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Boem wrote:

Where am i disputing what your saying exactly?

Everywhere you interpret it as being global. Duh.

It cannot be interpreted as being global if you know how PoE descriptions work.

Which every player of PoE is obviously thought upon booting up the game.

If your failing to grasp my issue with this modifier that's on you.

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1453R wrote:

Does one belt slot allowing you to turn 20+ Abyss jewels into effectively 30+ Abyss jewels not seem maybe just a twitch too busted to be true to you?

Of course it would, doesn't change anything about the fact it can be perceived and interpreted to work exactly like that for anybody playing the game.
And could easily be fixed with a little change of the description.

^Which is my issue with it.

I never wanted to use the belt, i just dropped it and put it on and then tested some stuff with it. One of the things was seeing if passive tree jewels would get doubled which they did not, clearly showing its a LOCAL modifier (Duh).

To bad none of this changed the fact it can just as easily be interpreted as a global modifier.
Which from a game design perspective is terrible fucking design, got it Viper?

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Boem wrote:

None of my jewels got the 50% effect bonus, does it only work on "abyss jewels"? And if so, should the text be altered on the belt to resemble this fact?

Bolted the part which apparently is important for some people to realize my issue with this thing.
Or should i add a line to the OP "to make it more intuitive for new players to PoE", which would literally require an addition of three words.

Whatever, get hung up on your "well it obviously utilizes all the normal rules of item descriptions while being totally unintuitive" and chuck it up to good game design.

I'm out, enjoy.

Peace,

-Boem-

Edit : yeah i totally don't remember a fuckton of post's about pariah granting 1500 ES when it was just released and "fucking OPie OP ring". Clearly showing it's a non-issue.

I'll go to feedback with this i reckon.