Prefix or Suffix?

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onomastikon wrote:

When purchasing an item with limited resources, you cannot always get exactly the stats you want within your budget, so it is often good to make sure that you have a slot open to craft.

But some items have four easily identifiable affixes in the form of two suffixes and two prefixes. But then there is often something like "increased rarity" as a fifth affix, which (for helmets, for example) can be either a prefix or a suffix. Is there a way to tell (before buying the item and slapping it on a crafting bench) if the slot you want is free? If not -- why, actually? Is this a design feature that fulfills a specific purpose?

Thanks

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Daiena wrote:

There are a lot of websites (wiki included) where you can browse for lists of affixes/suffixes on any kind of item, if you want to be 100% sure.
It's actually quite useful thing to do, because the more you research the more you remember, and eventually you can tell by your self if it's a prefix, suffix or a hybrid roll just by looking at it.

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D3isdead wrote:

I stumbled upon this really neat list and have been using it alongside the auction house ever since.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DjGcgUebJ3HdvqZu5wxNjXZYAMccMJLBLNZjBOE2-vU/edit#gid=16

Hope it helps.

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evilsofa wrote:

Let's take your example of Base Item Found Rarity % on a helmet. Using the PoE wiki entry for Item Affix, you'll see that if it's a prefix:

Req. Lv. 20 (8-12)% increased Rarity of Items found
Req. Lv. 39 (13-18)% increased Rarity of Items found
Req. Lv. 62 (19-24)% increased Rarity of Items found

but if it's a suffix:

Req. Lv. 3 (6-10)% increased Rarity of Items found
Req. Lv. 30 (11-14)% increased Rarity of Items found
Req. Lv. 53 (15-20)% increased Rarity of Items found
Req. Lv. 75 (21-26)% increased Rarity of Items found

The easy part is that if it's 6 or 7% it's definitely a prefix, and if it's 25% or 26% it's definitely a suffix, no matter what else is going on.

If the ilvl is less than 75 but the Rarity mod is between 19% and 24%, then it must be a prefix. Here's an example of a 5 mod helmet with Rarity that I pulled off of poe.trade:

Ghoul Shelter Hubris Circlet
Level: 69 Intelligence: 154 ilvl: 74 Max sockets: 4 (4)
+71 to maximum Life P3
+57 to maximum Mana P4
24% increased Rarity of Items found ??
+29% to Fire Resistance S5
20% increased Stun and Block Recovery S3

Two prefixes, two suffixes, and the Rarity mod. The ilvl is 74. If the Rarity mod were a suffix, the ilvl would have to be 75 in order to allow 24%, so it must be a prefix because that only requires ilvl 62.

A more annoying example:

Armageddon Corona Sinner Tricorne
Level: 64 Dexterity: 138 ilvl: 80 Max sockets: 4 (4)
+2 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems P1
+14 to Accuracy Rating ??
24% increased Rarity of Items found ??
+26% to Fire Resistance S5
5% increased Light Radius ??

Accuracy Rating is a suffix-only mod for evasion helmets, as is Light Radius, so I'm not sure why poe.trade doesn't understand that, but that means the Rarity mod has to be a prefix.

poe.trade might not know those are suffixes because when I go to the wiki Item Affix page for evasion helmet affixes, it's a blank page; I had to go to poedb's page for evasion helmets to find that out.

Hopefully, there isn't too much gear that falls in the cracks and leaves it impossible to know if a mod is prefix or suffix. In that case, as noted above, you'll just have to talk to the seller and ask them to find out which crafting mods the item will take. The wiki for each master lists which of their mods are prefixes and suffixes (example: Haku's Armour's Workbench mods).

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evilsofa wrote:

A more annoying example:

Armageddon Corona Sinner Tricorne
Level: 64 Dexterity: 138 ilvl: 80 Max sockets: 4 (4)
+2 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems P1
+14 to Accuracy Rating ??
24% increased Rarity of Items found ??
+26% to Fire Resistance S5
5% increased Light Radius ??

Accuracy Rating is a suffix-only mod for evasion helmets, as is Light Radius, so I'm not sure why poe.trade doesn't understand that