Technical Support ES formula + Regen ES Mechanics

Problem 1

We know that formule %rate recharger is :

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Where "R" is : Let r be the sum of #% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge modifiers (as a percentage). The delay period in seconds is given by:

This is not very clear.....

Example : If you have %150 regen rate R = (200)/(100+150) = 0.8 regen rate, but in this game not works like that

I saw my finish build that I have : 145%recharger without items/jewels, and I will get 0.81.. but not is correct

With a chronometer It has taken 2 times more after combat .... What is the problem ?

Problem 2

How you can get regen fast with ES in combat ? another big error or bad idea development team

- We know that we have Vaal Discipline, is a best of recharger BUT everyone else Not work correctly I think.
--- Occultist : 0.5% of Energy Shield Regenerated per second for each
----- 0.5% about 20k Es = 100 points about ES,per second if "Enemy you've Killed Recently"
- Occultist : Energy Shield Recharge is not interrupted by Damage if Recharge began Recently
--- I don't know How works exactly, but I think that not recover all in battle, is my opinion

- Other solution is [GHOST REAVER] + [LIFE LEECH] with a skill (But It works as you want ? )
--- The recharger is so low for example : if you have 2% + 20 % = 22% life leech with 2k spell damage directly in a moob you can regen only : 400 points of ES but in this game not works like that ....
----- Any Supporter can tell the formula how works [GHOST REAVER] + [LIFE LEECH] + (Skill) correctly to regen rate ?

And what is the best method to regen 10k every hit with witch? " Or not is possible ? "

Greetings

I really don't think this belongs in the Technical Support.

1. The 145% recharge you have is most likely recharge rate. Not faster start of energy shield recharge. So the delay is not affected by that number. It is impossible to get 145% faster start of energy shield recharge without items/jewels, there is only one node 15% in the tree with that stat...look for "Faster start of energy recharge rate" on jewels.

And it takes by default 2 seconds after combat for energy shield to start recharging. Took me 2 seconds to find out.

2. To blame the development team because you can't figure something out is kinda dumb.

0.5% of energy shield PER ENEMY you killed recently(the last 4 seconds). let's say you kill 15 enemies, that's 7.5% of your es. your example 7.5% of 20k Es = 1.5k Es per second. Hey, that's pretty good.

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Energy Shield Recharge is not interrupted by Damage if Recharge began Recently
--- I don't know How works exactly, but I think that not recover all in battle, is my opinion

It's extremely clear what it does. if you started recharging your energy shield recently(last 4 seconds) it won't be interrupted by damage.

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if you have 2% + 20 % = 22% life leech with 2k spell damage directly in a moob you can regen only : 400 points of ES but in this game not works like that

Where the hell do you get that +20% life leech from?

life leech depends on your damage and if you have such stupidly low damage and such extreme amounts of es (20k? don't know if that was just an example or your actual characters total es) then of course it's going to be bad. 22% life leech on endgame dps is a lot more than enough. You're just limited by leech rate which you can bypass by using Vaal Pact for instant leech.

But by the weird numbers you're giving I suspect that it's just your build that's fucked up with only a shitload of energy shield and no damage so in conclusion:

No there's nothing wrong with the game it's just your character and understanding of the game that is subpar. Just laying it to you straight. Sorry for being rude and hope you get your build together.

Hello again,

The first point without items is possible ? Yes. I don't know why you don't know spaggetti it.

I post the 38% of my build :



If you do not believe it : Only with tree 145 %

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And it takes by default 2 seconds after combat for energy shield to start recharging. Took me 2 seconds to find out.

default 2 seconds after combat + 1 or 2 (your rate) seg = about 3 or 4 seconds .... the mechanic is incorrect to get full ES, in combat you can't regen correctly, because always you are in battle.

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let's say you kill 15 enemies, that's 7.5% of your es. your example 7.5% of 20k Es = 1.5k Es per second. Hey, that's pretty good.

Read again : Says : "0.5% of Energy Shield Regenerated per second for each
Enemy you've Killed Recently" NOT EVERY KILL CARE!!, ("Killed Recently") you can restore 100 por each second, if you don't know that I'm talking it means that developments have a big problem in descriptions gems with your effect.

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Where the hell do you get that +20% life leech from?

6X Link with flame blast (OR OTHER SPELL SKILL) + Life Leech + ........ AND passive GHOST REAVER ( read description about it )

Let a Spaniard have to see the faults of this game ......

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No there's nothing wrong with the game it's just your character and understanding of the game that is subpar. Just laying it to you straight. Sorry for being rude and hope you get your build together.

Please inform yourself before commenting on this post, are you a real supporter ?.

See this videos :

(Recharge with discharge )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR5yfgvLCKE

(Recharge with Righteous Fire )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQi-4Qy3Jj4

And exist more videos.

I only want know if you can recharge 10K every hit (with spell) I can see that yes in videos, but how ?
Without Vaal Discipline and Aurora Aegis.

Please respond it, any administrator who has a bit of a relationship with the developers of the game.

Greetins.

Seems like a troll to me.

Even if he is not a troll there is no point in discusion when he cant even understand you.

If you just want to know ho to "recharge" 10k per hit, look up Vaal pact.

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Read again : Says : "0.5% of Energy Shield Regenerated per second for each
Enemy you've Killed Recently" NOT EVERY KILL CARE!!, ("Killed Recently") you can restore 100 por each second, if you don't know that I'm talking it means that developments have a big problem in descriptions gems with your effect.

Or you're just a dumbass who can't read and thinks that he knows a lot. There is nothing wrong with development here - you just can't read and instead of testing this stuff out you insist on discussing while being ignorant (on many fronts).

Do your homework and then comeback with what you found out.

Ps. Check what FOR EACH means in the dictionary, since English doesn't seem to be your trade...

It seems that I was wrong at that point, it is for every enemy, I understood that it was for each enemy (recently) you earned 0.5% of the total, and it is not for every mob you earn that 0.5%, if not that "recently " Has no sense.

Even being 0.5% of 20K for 20 moobs = 2K, I find it low.

They treat me like idiots, Because I missed a sentence, but then in the bug patch they put things similar to the ones I post.

Gentlemen have not created anything of the other world ... so that they insult without more, here many people give themselves airs, when they do not speak speak more than English and they do not have nor a professional career.

Don't reprimand other people who are attempting to help you when you yourself is lacking knowledge of this game.

Start by knowing the difference between Energy Shield Recharge and Regeneration.

In the case of Occultist's Wicked Ward and Vile Bastion.

Wicked Ward: "Energy Shield Recharge is not interrupted by Damage if Recharge began Recently"

Energy Recharge begins when you have not taken damage for 2 seconds (reduced by any #% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge). You then recharge at a default rate of 20% maximum ES per second.

The term "Recently" in POE refers to the last 4 seconds.

So if your Recharge just began, you have a 4 second grace period where any damage you take then, will not interrupt the Recharge. This grace period is only for the trigger. Once it happens, you will continue to recharge your ES until it reaches full. This will continue even if you take any form of damage.

Vile Bastion: "0.5% of Energy Shield Regenerated per second for each Enemy you've Killed Recently"

Regeneration is not Recharge. Regeneration is a source of recovery that is always active.

It is exactly as it says. EACH INDIVIDUAL ENEMY YOU KILL aka EVERY ENEMY YOU KILL will grant you a Regeneration buff of .5% of your ES per second. This has no cap, but each individual buff has its own timer. spagetti is correct.
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ES Recharge Rate and #% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge are two completely different things.

The passive tree you show has 145% increased ES Recharge Rate, and 15% faster start of ES Recharge.

The Recharge Delay formula is:

Delay Period = (200)/(100 + R)

Where R is your #% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge.

Your tree having 15% means that you're at (200)/(115) = 1.739 seconds

AKA your ES Recharge starts at 1.74 seconds instead of 2 seconds.
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As stated above, the default ES Recharge rate is 20% of your Maximum ES per second. You have a 145% increased ES Recharge rate, which means:

(20%) * (100% + (145% increased ES Recharge Rate)) = 49% ES Recharged per second
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You do not get 20% Life Leech from the Life Leech support gem. There's a difference between Leech, Leech Rate, and Leech Cap.

The Life Leech support gem only grants you 2% Life Leech. This means only 2% of your damage per leech instance is returned to you as Health/Energy Shield (if you have Ghost Reaver).

Even so, you're capped by the Leech Cap. You'll need Vaal Pact to "bypass" the cap, otherwise you're capped at 20% of your maximum ES per second, regardless of the amount of leech you have, unless you increase the maximum Life Leech rate.

You don't "regen" 10k ES per hit. You can't. You can LEECH 10k ES per hit, only if you have Vaal Pact, the right amount of leech, and the right amount of damage.

Go read the POE wiki page on how Leech works. It's quite thorough.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Leech

So where on earth does the 20% Leech come from?
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The Fakener build (Discharge) recovers his ES through Leech via Vaal Pact.

The Righteous Fire video you linked recovers his ES via Life Regen + Zealot's Oath, the use of Vaal Discipline, and weaving in and out of combat to Recharge his ES.

Sentilial Thanks for the explanation, I'll look at what point I got stuck.

Greetings.

Hi Sentilial,

Thanks I read all the texts about how the mechanics work.%regen %recharge %leech and each skill regen.

Also I saw a good guide from Pohx Kappa "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS9CSosSPo".

I will try it.

And forgive me for the misunderstanding.

Greetings.

Hi, spaggetti

First, who gave you a candle at this funeral? I hope you understand the meaning of the expression in Spanish (if not look for the dictionary)

It seems to me that you like to disrespect, and that leaves much to be desired of your education. (I think you're lucky to work the POE)

Had to come your partner "Sentilial" to clarify it, you did not know that I asked (since in the first post I disrespect myself)

If you like to play heroes, solve the doubts as a professional ... if you are clear ..

I asked you what would be the best way to get regeneration by magic stroke, but your comment has not solved anything and has created a discussion.

Why do I skip the "for each" you have to laugh? Excuse me sir I have no idea what they ask me.

You have not bumped into a kid, so do not overdo prefesional, that of professional you do not even have a hair.

Espero que tu educación pueda entender lo siguiente.

Vuelvo a repetir me da igual que administrador venga, como si viene el desarrollador, las mecánicas de juego son erróneas, No son las correctas, me da igual si tu eres el recadero ( support ) o un simple agente que no tiene ni idea de que hacen los programadores de su empresa.

Espero que te quede claro.