Glacial Hammer hidden AOE tag not working
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With the release of the new Winter Burial jewel, Glacial Hammer received a hidden AOE tag which shows that Increased AOE and Conc. Effect support gems work with the skill. However both support gems don't appear to do anything for Glacial hammer or the AOE given from the Winter Burial jewel.
- Increase AOE notables such as "Amplify" don't appear to increase the tooltip of Glacial Hammer / AOE - Glacial Hammer tooltip is not increased from Concentrated effect - Winter Burial AOE is not increased / decreased by Increased AOE / Concentrated effect - Glacial Hammer does say in the tooltip that it's AOE is increased by Inc. AOE - Unsure if Conc. effect / notables increases the damage of the AOE Just wondering because of the interactions with Burning Arrow and Lesser Duration giving Burning Arrow more damage because of the Pitch Darkness Threshold jewel giving Burning Arrow a hidden "Duration" tag. Assuming this is intended or just how the game works, the area of effect given by the jewel seems a bit lackluster to me in terms of viability when weighed with other options for end game skills. http://imgur.com/4hSWuDK (Just showing that Inc. AOE and Conc. Effect do appear on Glacial Hammer) Last bumped on Mar 9, 2017, 9:19:30 AM
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"The increased AoE is a stat, rather than modifying the skill, and thus has no reason to appear on the tooltip (but it should in the character sheet). The increased area damage doesn’t appear because the tooltip only displays the damage of the melee part of the attack. "The splash damage doesn’t appear on the tooltip, again, the damage shown is the melee part which is not area damage and thus not increased by conc. effect, which has “more Area Damage”. "How do you know this? "As it should. "Unlike Concentrated effect, Less Duration gives “more Damage” and thus affects all damage from the supported skill. " |
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Melvar, your knowledge of game mechanics is strong, but have you tested this skill gem/jewel combination personally?
I have tried a number of things from conc effect vs. increased AoE Jewel, Massive shrine vs. no massive shrine and combinations with skill gems and passive tree nodes. I have been unable to see any noticeable difference in the splash area of Winter Burial. Though it is extremely hard to tell, given there is no definitive visual radius as there is with other skills such as Ice Nova or Vortex Also, Winter Burial does not increase AOE with levels like melee splash does, but I suppose that is a trade-off for having 100% of damage splashed to nearby targets. |
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Yo Melv this isn't like a mechanic type post, more of a rant on how useless the Jewel is in the game's current state.
AOE just got reworked so quite possibly it may have been intended for the jewel to gain AOE from AOE buffs but currently it doesn't from what I've tried. Without knowing GGG's intention for what the jewel is meant to offer (quite possibly I may have missed some way to buff the AOE ) , I think this jewel is just what Glacial Hammer needs in order to see play as an end game skill but with a pitiful AOE range its just another content filler rn. |
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I have not tried it, but we’ve had other skills where the actual AoE does scale, but the visual effect does not change size. That’s why I asked how you were measuring it.
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I'm gonna quote some notes from patch 2.2 regarding threshold jewels:
"Any skill with an associated threshold jewel is now supportable by support gems that could affect the additional properties added by the threshold jewel." I have done some rough eyeball testing and it does look like aoe increases the splash area. Picking up a massive shrine seems to increase my reach by quite a bit. Also equiped/unequiped the gem and again, it feels bigger (giggity) Best I can tell it does work but as mentioned area damage will not affect the tooltip since the initial hit is NOT an area hit |
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