Is Chayula going to obliterate me with low chaos resists?

Talking about boss arena only.

Should I worry more about phys damage or chaos damage there?

Should I be chaos capped (no CI) in there or else my ass is handed to me on a platter?

(7k EHP + loads of armour, if that's relevant)
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I think some chaos resist might prove to be useful, try to go for 30% or more. I never fought him myself, but there's a reason the pros use chaos resist breach rings against him.
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Pet peeve here, why does everyone talk about their health as EHP? EHP is used to register your health as a value including mitigation, which requires the mitigation to be vs a particular source. For example if you have 7k hp and capped chaos resist you have 24000 EHP vs chaos, if you have -60% you have ~ 4400 EHP vs chaos.

As far as i'm aware the only things that reduce damage across the board are fortify and enfeeble so unless you're calculating those specifically its hard to workout what someone means when they say 7k EHP.

Actually on topic though i'd go with FCK42's suggestion and try and wear a pair of chaos resist breach rings if you can to get into positive resist. In my experience GGG balance chaos damage around being at roughly 0 so if you can get above that its gonna greatly increase your chances
Last edited by Draegnarrr#2823 on Jan 12, 2017, 10:08:48 AM
I watched several streamers who were not CI fighting Chayula and based on that experience I would strongly suggest to get your Chaos resist capped or into mid-positive numbers at least. Her chaos whirlwind hits like a truck even on Chaos capped character--it is slated to be 3/4 physical and 1/4 chaos damage, which is good enough reason to ensure you are in positive Chaos resistance numbers.
According to datamined info she only does physical damage, the adds certainly do some chaos damage though with the spider mortar thing.

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Pet peeve here, why does everyone talk about their health as EHP?


Seems to me to be a form of semantic eggcorn, if that makes any sense. Presumably, the vast majority of PoE players are new to mathcraft, and thus EHP is a new term to them. They Google it and find "effective hit points," and since Energy Shield is a more visible source of hit points than mitigation in this game, they just stop reading there and assume EHP means Life plus Energy Shield. This is the definition a lot of posters in GD and F+D use, and yes, I always mentally groan and roll my eyes when they do that.

For anyone who likes to be precise, please use "total buffer" for Life plus Energy Shield, and be specific / diligent when it comes to using "EHP." The more logical way to phrase it, for example, would be "I have 5000 Life and Fortify, so I have 6250 EHP against hits." This way of phrasing it captures exactly what actually happens in the game.
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Thanks for answers guys, it seems that I need to worry mostly about physical in there so I won't replace my basalt flask, instead try to get some breach rings with chaos resists as you suggested.

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Draegnarrr wrote:
Pet peeve here, why does everyone talk about their health as EHP?


Ugh... "I have 7k ehp" is a tldr for:

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I have 4.7k hp and Mom +EB with 50 mana that works against hits and 1700 ES that works against non-chaos hits and armour which ranges from 11k to 28k depending on which flasks are up but it works only against physical hits and some physical resist between 0-46% too that works on non-hits physical but non-elemental for which I have 8% less damage if enemy is nearby but it won't always be but when it is he also gets affected by my enfeeble except bosses have 60% less curse effect and I have fortify on movement skill with decent uptime so it works for few seconds after leap slam against all hits and there are resists too which I have 75% ofc but everyone gets it for granted except chaos resist which I'm trying to figure out how much should I have and OH FUCK IT FUCK FUCK 7K EHP ALRIGHT I HAVE 7K FUCKING EHP!!1!!1shift+one
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Last edited by Turbodevil#3930 on Jan 13, 2017, 3:30:18 AM
You could of just said you have 4,7k hp and mom with 1700 es, especially when you asked about chaos damage which you have only 4,7k buffer against not 7k
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Last edited by kaarelo#6451 on Jan 13, 2017, 5:03:49 AM
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You could of just said you have 4,7k hp and mom+EB with 1700 es, especially when you asked about chaos damage which you have only 4,7k buffer against not 7k fight which is known for physical and chaos damage and I didn't know which is more relevant

Reverse nitpicking.
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Chaos damage will still bypass your energy shield regardless if its protecting your life or mana
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