Are these craft bases any good?

And if so, what kind of price ranges could I expect to be able to sell them at?

(Please don't send me to the Price Check forums. There's 0 replies across the whole front page.)

I got some whatever pieces I don't expect a whole lot from:



But the rest of these, I feel like they're particularly really good bases. But you tell me what you think. Item levels are all around 71+.



Thoughts would be appreciated! I feel like it's a niche market, but I also feel like vendoring these is a waste :X

problem with standard is its soooo flooded. that means that unless you get top rare lucky roll then nobody is going to be interested. things that look like they're good end up being maybe 1 alch because standard is just full of those semi-good pieces.

i'd say all of those are vendor, tbh.
nothing is worth crafting because it takes more currency to craft than you could sell it for since again standard is flooded

Vaal regalia is best es chest afaik, rustic sash is rustic sash, classic and never last season. Chain belt used to be best fot ES chars but they introduced crystal belts lately. (ofc chain belt still can ftw , i just wouldn't throw my currency at one). For Eva u wanna Zodiac Leather (best eva) or Assasins Garb (bit less eva but 3% mov speed implict). Wand would be prophecy, but ppl seem to roll kris kind of daggers usualy. Also mind that wands, daggers, staffs, scepters can roll casters rolls and weapon rolls and that makes crafting them twice as annoying.

Past the first couple of days of a new league all of those items are vendor trash. 5L regalia? Not worth rolling on (unless it is ilevel 84+, but the 5L is irrelevant. You would chaos/essence spam it for a high ES number, then 6L it). For pricing (not that any of those will sell), you should check poe.trade for similar items. That is the only way to get an idea of what an item is worth.

Crafting bases are worthless if they aren't ilvl 84, and even those aren't worth much (only very specific bases have ANY value, and it really isn't much anymore)

I see, I see.

So, golden rules seems to be ilvl 84+, and to be the highest base item type. Makes sense.

Also that nobody will wanna craft on a weapon, for the most part :P

Still feels like such a waste, ya know what I mean? But maybe I'll keep the belts and use them on a character, or something.

Could ilvl 77 base do for, say, beggining of league and other such survial kind of cuircumstances? I never mind rolling them tbh :S ("at least won't roll that flat chaos damage bulls$#*"- I kept telling myself while I've been throwing all my currency at such item).
Also why 84+ excatly? Just because t1 mods avalible, or also becaue it's more likely to get better rolls? (I started to get curious about this stuff lately %))

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ShadyC wrote:

I see, I see.

So, golden rules seems to be ilvl 84+, and to be the highest base item type. Makes sense.

Also that nobody will wanna craft on a weapon, for the most part :P

Still feels like such a waste, ya know what I mean? But maybe I'll keep the belts and use them on a character, or something.

Is that correct?


I couldn't enjoy crafting anything else than weapon and I don't really care if I need or not that type of weapon (I think that's common amongs other players too) Truth to be told none of them example weapons is really good and one none will sell for much (if at all). But still they're reliable tools for some point of game, and I just can't help and not proceed.
That "crafting" usualy means just rolling 1 bench mod on good or "good" rare item. They end as giveaways most of times. I don't mind :)

edit: I'm getting more sure with every post,that there's nothing right, by the book, about what I do with orbs :D

You should only ever craft ultra high end gear and only when it is cost effective to do so. (I don't consider adding a master craft as 'crating").

So all that stuff is either for the vendor or keep it for leveling some of your own characters in standard.

Here's the rules behind crafting:

1. Don't. Unless you're uber-rich and have currency to burn. Unless you get super lucky you will always spend more on crafting than you could have just buying the item outright.

2. If you are going to craft, you only do so on ilvl 84+ of the top tier gear. This provides you access to the top tier affixes which is what you actually want, and it marginally increases your chances of rolling something decent.

3. For armour and 2 handed weapons you should either buy the item already fully 6 linked and then craft it, or buy the item already with top tier rolls and then 6 socket and link it. If you do both, that item is going to get stupidly expensive very quickly.

4. Which brings us to rule number 4. Before you craft anything at all, check poe trade for the type of item you want to create and see how much you could buy it for. You will be surprised at how many time you can just buy your item for an affordable price.

5. Understand the market needs. What affixes are useful to builds and why? Take that rustic sash for instance: While the increased physical damage is great, the three resistances are pretty average although often nice for filling out some gaps in gear, but that life roll is trash and makes it instant vendor material. As a physical damage life based player I want top rolls for both, but particularly life. I can get resists on almost any other piece of gear so they are not going to offset the demand for a high life roll.

6. Just Don't.

I hope that helps a little :)

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skuadak wrote:

Also why 84+ excatly? Just because t1 mods avalible, or also becaue it's more likely to get better rolls? (I started to get curious about this stuff lately %))

Due to T1 mods being available the average roll is better too. Its really a cost-benefit thing. The cost of the 84+ (vs a lower ilevel) is very small compared with the benefits from it being 84+. There may be some exceptions - some of the new drop restricted item bases are probably not available in high numbers.
For (some) weapons 83 is better than 84+. Although I do not know if the market knows that...