Volley Fire adds a total of...four?
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http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Volley_Fire
It adds two on top of the first and two on top of the last projectiles fired? Last bumped on Aug 16, 2016, 8:13:28 PM
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Yep. Barrage really likes its threshold jewel.
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" Would multiple instances of this jewel stack? Allowing you to add even more on top of it? |
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" If you're doing some Barrage CoC or actually using barrage for pack clearing for some reason, sure, but if you're using barrage for single target, the "extra projectiles" can't all hit one target (barrage stays at 4 "volleys" by default without additional mods, each of which can hit an enemy only once) " Yes. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1513844 Last edited by codetaku#0468 on Aug 15, 2016, 2:08:05 PM
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" Well what I'm getting at is that this turns Barrage into a Barrage-Split Arrow-GMP-LMP freak that can clear an entire screen without a downside. |
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" The downsides are (a) the preparation time and multiple volleys involves you forcibly standing still for longer than other bow skills, and (b) your single target, which barrage is supposed to excel for, falls behind other bow skills for bosses (such as tornado shot, or ice wall lightning arrow). You make it sound like split arrow is good.... Last edited by codetaku#0468 on Aug 15, 2016, 2:27:39 PM
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Barrage with two Volley Fires is a ton of fun as a main Skill. Works just fine.
(oh no it's not *the best* what a dang problem) |
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" Mostly, yeah. As Hikaru said, Volley Fire adds no single-target deepz to Barrage, but frankly Barrage tends to do fine against single targets anyways. Volley Fire (or two, or three) adds some serious cone effect to your shot. Dual Obliteration Volleybarrage wander would be pretty bitchin'. " Split Arrow is not good. Barrage that is also Split Arrow at the same time is better than Split Arrow alone - or, in fact, Barrage alone. She/Her Last edited by 1453R#7804 on Aug 15, 2016, 2:31:19 PM
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" " I know. I try to say something and people bitch like little kids just because they assume I'm meaning more than I am. Or they just don't consider the possibilities, or read between the lines, and so on. No, Hikaru, Split Arrow is not good and I did not imply anything of the sort. If you thought about what I said you would understand, from the link YOU provided, Split Arrow was just another form of GMP being stacked onto Barrage. And no, inherently Lightning Arrow is superior just because of the RNG tied to Barrage. However, if you are using Barrage with Chain and at least two Volley Fire jewels through Frost Wall, it will surpass Lightning Arrow / Pierce / Frost Wall. The sheer amount of additional hits and total damage would be insane. Especially since Chain would target an enemy and not the Frost Wall. Last edited by Natharias#4684 on Aug 15, 2016, 2:43:20 PM
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Ehh, don't let Hikaru get to you too much. (S)he's one of those who gets up into the upper tippy-top echelons of level 95+ Uber minmaxery, which is great if that's what you're looking for. Just gotta take Hikaru's advice with a bit of a grain of salt if you're shooting for a deliberate tier 2 build like Barrage anything-but-Reach.
Take your concept as far as you can, and when you find out how far that is figure out if there's another way you could've taken it that might've gone further. Or figure out your next concept. Not everybody needs to farm Uber Atziri, and if nobody ever played the funky off-beat builds everyone says are #Mediocre, nobody'd ever figure out what the next Great Thing is. She/Her
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