Scams Vs Mirror
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I really believe at people who claim to be scammed, but honestly I never seen a scam.
I'm very active trader, I buy and sell all the time, I play several hours everyday and from 2014 till now never meet a scammer. So I was trying to put a number to this scams... I don't know... maybe it's about 0.001% of trading transactions? What do you think? Scams are so rare that I think it's be between Exalted and Mirror, cuz I get like 30 exalted drop (since 2014) but no one Mirror or scam. Help me find the real number! "This Is A Buff" (Bex_GGG august 30, 2016) Last edited by diegodgo87#3061 on Mar 21, 2016, 7:34:09 AM Last bumped on Mar 21, 2016, 11:56:22 AM
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" Depends on your level of gullibility. Some people are much easier to scam than others. If you know what you're doing and have good judgement of people and situations, of course you won't get scammed. I've traded a pretty significant amount of exalts between SC and HC leagues and never got scammed, paid first almost always. But I do my research before I commit to a trader. So, scammers might be as rare as a mirror for you.. they might be a more frequent occurrence for others :) Also, I can bet you don't even count some scam attemps as such. The shit I've most frequently encountered: - fake low price listings. You get, say, a lightning coil drop. You are a less experienced player but you know to use poe.trade. You check it here and see its lowest listed price is 5c. You list yours at the same level. Someone's poe.trade scanning script immediately rings a bell and they buy your LC from you. - editing the copy-paste message from poe.trade to make it state a lower price - the clumsiest but still often encountered method of just placing less orbs in the trade window You have to be realistic about these things. Logen Ninefingers Last edited by Bars#2689 on Mar 21, 2016, 7:45:01 AM
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It's usually people who go looking for a scam that find one. You have to be the right type of player... one who is always looking for a quick solution to a problem.
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There's that too. I remember reading about a legendary real-life con artist who said "You can't con someone if they aren't greedy".
You have to be realistic about these things.
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most "scams" players complain about is "services" which don't get paid afterwards or don't get done after payment.
there is no backup technique for these "services" in the game. hence they're not supported by ggg. doesn't hinder them to "look into these matters" nonetheless. best practice probably is to neither offer such services or use them as you can risk your account in case of false claims. age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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Right. Most of those "services" are just ways to cheat the game into letting your character do something, or use something, that they weren't entitled to. The type of person who would use that cheat is the type of person that can be scammed. They're looking for a shortcut. That leaves them open to abuse.
You have to be a dick to exploit someone who is weak, but you also have to be weak to be exploited. That's why GGG stays out of it. |
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Their inattention or gullibility are what leaves them open to abuse, I assure you there are plenty of ways to get what you call "shortcuts" without getting scammed :) Still, I'm impressed - you managed to not type the magic words "solo self-found" even if your fingers were twitching :P
You have to be realistic about these things. Logen Ninefingers Last edited by Bars#2689 on Mar 21, 2016, 8:57:46 AM
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A good example are the challenge achivement trade . If you ask 20 chaos for a spot in a T14 vaal temple you can't be sure ppl will pay .
But in the last 2 league i've sell Griswold , twinned , vaal ecc ecc and never happened that someone don't pay . You get scammed when you try to scam legally some1 , example ?? You offer 20 ex for paying 25k perandus coin a Headhunter . We all know headhunter price is normally 70-100 ex . So you pay 20ex + 3,5 ex on coin to get 70 ex ? Who scam who ? Think about it . NGI RULES ! Last edited by Fobes#7789 on Mar 21, 2016, 9:02:20 AM
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if ggg wants to protect newbies from getting a bad impression by getting ripped off by experienced traders or "malicous service providers", they could setup a newbie server where new players need to play for one month before their account is enabled to play on the live servers.
" know the feeling, i always accidentally type "globe girls" into my posts and then have to correct it. age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill! Last edited by vio#1992 on Mar 21, 2016, 9:40:32 AM
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Most scams are just hearsay. And the little kids on this forum use this info like they were scammed themselves. While they have no clue what actually happened.
It happens abit more in Perandus, simply because if you can't afford what he offers and offer it to someone else, someone is always in the position that he can get scammed. |
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