Does widowmaker full-life-crit mod apply to spells?
Widowmaker mod: 100% increased critical strike chance against enemies on full life Question: Does this apply to spells? I have read that whether or not a spell crits is determined at cast. If that is the case, does the widowmaker ability really affect spell crit? Does this somehow only apply to melee abilities? Thank you in advance for any help. Last edited by Arcturasama#4226 on Mar 19, 2016, 7:48:45 PM Last bumped on Jun 8, 2016, 10:03:09 PM
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Your question has two parts.
First, you want to know if the "100% increased critical strike chance against enemies on full life" is local or global. Either it applies only to hits with that weapon (local), or it applies to all melee strikes and spells etc... (global). My guess it that it is global, but I don't know for sure. People say you can tell if a mod is local or global from the wording, but you need a lot of experience for it, and even then it's basically just arbitrary a lot of the time. You'll need someone who has tested this particular mod to tell you. -- Second, you want to know how crit chance is used in game. What happens is when the spell is cast (or attack is made, etc...), it rolls for the chance to crit. You can imagine that it rolls a number out of 100, eg 46. The 46 would stay for the whole of that use of the skill. Then what happens is every time it hits an enemy, it checks to see if it crits that enemy. If your chance to crit that enemy is 46 or higher, congrats it's a crit! Otherwise, sorry no crit for you. With widowmaker, you have more chance to crit enemies on full life. So depending on what you roll, you'll usually either crit all enemies, or just the enemies on full life, or no enemies. You can test if widowmaker's crit chance applies to spells by casting an AoE spell, and paying attention to what it crits. If it ever crits only the enemies on full life, then you know it probably is a global mod. Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756 Last edited by dudiobugtron#4663 on Mar 19, 2016, 8:25:34 PM
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Bumping an old thread since I couldn't find the answer searching.
Is the "100% increased Critical Strike Chance against Enemies on Full Life" on this weapon global or local? " ... to let them know the game isn’t going to be very fair from here on out."
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I am 98% sure it's global, similar to the assassin nodes.
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asssassin nodes have nothing to do with it, these are not on a weapon... they cannot be local...
and as far as critical goes on weapons "X% increased critical strike chance" is local "X% increased global critical strike chance" is global and it clearly states "100% increased critical strike chance against enemies on full life" not "100% increased global critical strike chance against enemies on full life" I would say it is a local mod. Testing or GGG answer is required for confirmation, otherwise it's just speculation on the wording, which could be misleadind. |
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" Local, as in changing the base crit chance of the weapon? That seems highly unlikely! Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756 |
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" Why? it's consistent with the wording, and would be way stronger for attacks, which the unique was obvisouly design for. |
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Conditional modifiers are never local. See also, Prismatic Eclipse.
I have a couple on Standard, I'll double-check it once PoE finishes patching. (which is going to take a while, because you don't get any numbers on this. Woo) Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Jun 8, 2016, 6:05:24 AM
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From my previous tests i think its local:
And it's specified on weapon so it should be local, if n9t it would have been said global. Tough.. in the skill tree, when not specified it imply it s global... You ARE my Bitch of burden!
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Arctic Breath + Echo.
Two Widowmakers, as an Occultist (so no other conditional Crit Chance triggers). First hit is a Crit, the second is not; observed multiple times. So as expected, it works with Spells, because it cannot be a local modifier. They're decidedly mediocre Spell Crit daggers, woop. |
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