+3 bow crafting question

So the league that starts Friday I was thinking of doing a Caustic Arrow build. I had a question regarding crafting a +3 bow.

I know the normal method of spamming alt + aug and getting sharpshooter's +2 bow and w/e else. Then regaling and HOPING for a suffix, if not start over.

However I also ran across this on the wiki and I don't see how it works...

Alternative technique:
1. Choose the preferred base bow with an item level of at least 64.
2. Craft it into a single mod magic bow with the Sharpshooter's prefix (+2 to socketed Bow Gems) using the technique explained above.
3. Craft Catarina's Cannot roll Attack Mods meta-crafting mod.
4. Use a Regal Orb. The Fletcher's prefix (+1 to socketed Bow Gems) is guaranteed to spawn.

However I do not see how this would work. Am I missing something?

Ultimately I would like to have a +3 bow that I can master craft and add res/res/%dmg over time to it. Do you need to find/buy one like this or is there some way to craft it?


The formula your posted does apparently work - it was found by a couple of guys 2 seasons (?)ago who used it to make alot of +3 bows and staves for *alot* less then they were costing to buy. As a result they became very very rich - more power to them!

Now the cost of a +3 bow is kinda inline with what it would cost to make it yourself, including the 6 link from vorci.

Cheers,
Matt.

PS. I think there might be a step your missing, so double check first :)
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Last edited by essemoni#5366 on Feb 29, 2016, 6:57:07 PM
The alternate method saves you 1ex:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3hm845/guide_cheaper_3_bow_crafting_method/
Total cost of craft will be 2ex + change (alts/augs/regals/scours), so you get to save 1ex and have the option to use it later if your other mods are ideal.
---- alt/aug spam until +2 bows AND a suffix
---- regal hoping for a second suffix (if not scour and start again)
---- Cannot Roll Attack mods (1ex)
---- Exalt for guaranteed +1 gems (1ex)
---- Scour Cata mod and Leo mod for DOT (1 scour 5 alch)

Here are the original instructions:
Spoiler
Take any iLVL 64 bow, preferably a cheap 6 link with MS or high APS
1. Roll single stat +2 bow gems [alts]
2. Add Cannot roll attack mods [Cat 1ex]
3. Regal (safe cause the only prefix that can roll is +1 Gems)
4. If you hit the +1 gem good
5. if not exalt
6. after you hit +1 gem remove the Cat Mod and add the Leo mod for DOT
7. if you want Reroll the Leo mod until 30% [Leo3 5x alch (prefix)]
8. Exalt out the remaining suffixes
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essemoni wrote:
The formula your posted does apparently work - it was found by a couple of guys 2 seasons (?)ago who used it to make alot of +3 bows and staves for *alot* less then they were costing to buy. As a result they became very very rich - more power to them!

Now the cost of a +3 bow is kinda inline with what it would cost to make it yourself, including the 6 link from vorci.

Cheers,
Matt.

PS. I think there might be a step your missing, so double check first :)


Thank you for the info. I still don't see how when you regal you cannot roll a suffix, all the resists and stuff are not classified as attack mods, so I do not see why it would work, unless I am over looking something.

As for the steps, this is what is listed in the wiki copied exactly.

Alternative technique:
1. Choose the preferred base bow with an item level of at least 64.
2. Craft it into a single mod magic bow with the Sharpshooter's prefix (+2 to socketed Bow Gems) using the technique explained above.
3. Craft Catarina's Cannot roll Attack Mods meta-crafting mod.
4. Use a Regal Orb. The Fletcher's prefix (+1 to socketed Bow Gems) is guaranteed to spawn.
5. Remove Catarina's meta-crafting mod.
6. Exalt or master craft the remaining affixes.
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vikroda wrote:
The alternate method saves you 1ex:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3hm845/guide_cheaper_3_bow_crafting_method/
Total cost of craft will be 2ex + change (alts/augs/regals/scours), so you get to save 1ex and have the option to use it later if your other mods are ideal.
---- alt/aug spam until +2 bows AND a suffix
---- regal hoping for a second suffix (if not scour and start again)
---- Cannot Roll Attack mods (1ex)
---- Exalt for guaranteed +1 gems (1ex)
---- Scour Cata mod and Leo mod for DOT (1 scour 5 alch)

Here are the original instructions:
Spoiler
Take any iLVL 64 bow, preferably a cheap 6 link with MS or high APS
1. Roll single stat +2 bow gems [alts]
2. Add Cannot roll attack mods [Cat 1ex]
3. Regal (safe cause the only prefix that can roll is +1 Gems)
4. If you hit the +1 gem good
5. if not exalt
6. after you hit +1 gem remove the Cat Mod and add the Leo mod for DOT
7. if you want Reroll the Leo mod until 30% [Leo3 5x alch (prefix)]
8. Exalt out the remaining suffixes



Yes this is the other method however, most times you get a random suffix mod and can not master craft the remaining.

I am hoping to be able to master craft multiple mods, either res + % dmg over time or hopefully res/res/% dmg over time.

Obviously with crafting multiple mods this would be more expensive, but I am ok with that.

Just trying to find out how you can have a magic bow with +2 bow skills and cannot roll attack mods, regal it and get automatic +1 gems, don't make sense to me.
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g00fy_goober wrote:
... I still don't see how when you regal you cannot roll a suffix, ...


You CAN roll a suffix. In that case, you need to spam exalts until you hit a prefix, which will be +1. In either method you can scour the suffixes away if you don't get something you want (it will cost 2ex to add the prefixes can't be modified mod).
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vikroda wrote:
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g00fy_goober wrote:
... I still don't see how when you regal you cannot roll a suffix, ...


You CAN roll a suffix. In that case, you need to spam exalts until you hit a prefix, which will be +1. In either method you can scour the suffixes away if you don't get something you want (it will cost 2ex to add the prefixes can't be modified mod).


That is not what the guide says though, guide says when you regal you are guaranteed to get +1 gem prefix
Anyone else?
Yes I can answer this.

Ok, so the method you described gives you a +3 bow via the prefixes, but what it doesn't tell you is that you will have RANDOM suffixes.

Basically, you are forced to just keep exalting until you finally hit a prefix. It might be one, or it might be 3. You may also be left with a bow with some undesirable mods.


If you want to do it the right way, here is the procedure:

1) Take a white bow
2) Mastercraft a suffix (which will turn it blue)
3) Regal
4) If necessary, scour and repeat 2 & 3 until you get +2 bow gems (it has to be +2 bow gems, can't be +1 all gems)

At that point, you will have a rare bow with +2 bow gems and a mastercrafted suffix. Which you then bench-scour with Tora's bench, which will leave you with a rare bow that has just +2 bow gems.

* Then multimod (Elreon)
* Then "Cannot Roll Attack Mods" (Catarina)
* Then mastercraft a random suffix / random prefix so you only have one prefix left
* Exalt +1
* Use a master to bench-scour (remove crafted mod) so you're left with just a +2/+1 bow
* Then multimod again and mastercraft two resistances on it to make gearing everything else easier, and of course Leo's DoT mod



I did this to create this bow:


In total, it took about 400 augments (for master mods), 100 regals, 100 scours, and 6 exalts to obtain these mods. Plus the original 6L bow of course.


Any other questions I can answer about this?
Good luck!
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Last edited by Nick42#4121 on Mar 1, 2016, 11:10:08 AM
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Nick42 wrote:
Yes I can answer this.

Ok, so the method you described gives you a +3 bow via the prefixes, but what it doesn't tell you is that you will have RANDOM suffixes.

Basically, you are forced to just keep exalting until you finally hit a prefix. It might be one, or it might be 3. You may also be left with a bow with some undesirable mods.


If you want to do it the right way, here is the procedure:

1) Take a white bow
2) Mastercraft a suffix (which will turn it blue)
3) Regal
4) If necessary, scour and repeat 2 & 3 until you get +2 bow gems (it has to be +2 bow gems, can't be +1 all gems)

At that point, you will have a rare bow with +2 bow gems and a mastercrafted suffix. Which you then bench-scour with Tora's bench, which will leave you with a rare bow that has just +2 bow gems.

* Then multimod (Elreon)
* Then "Cannot Roll Attack Mods" (Catarina)
* Then mastercraft a random suffix / random prefix so you only have one prefix left
* Exalt +1
* Use a master to bench-scour (remove crafted mod) so you're left with just a +2/+1 bow
* Then multimod again and mastercraft two resistances on it to make gearing everything else easier, and of course Leo's DoT mod



I did this to create this bow:


In total, it took about 400 augments (for master mods), 100 regals, 100 scours, and 6 exalts to obtain these mods. Plus the original 6L bow of course.


Any other questions I can answer about this?
Good luck!


I appreciate the info! That also makes a little more sense. Ill see how things go in upcoming perandus league! I can't wait!

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