2.1 HC Lightning Strike Duelist.

Wanted some feedback, was wondering who is trying LS since it got buffed and fixed. Here (level 90) is a tree I was going to go with - planned to use 2h swords or maybe Axes, pending on how well each do.

Links would be LS + Blood Magic + WED + Multistrike + Innervate + Faster Attacks

Any feedback or information would be appreciated, thanks.

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Last edited by Edzilla#0339 on Dec 17, 2015, 9:45:38 PM
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This is something I drummed up really quickly. I only used 105 points but you get:

219% life
83% attack speed
411% increased physical damage
~100% armour

Not quite as defensive as I prefer, and I'm not 100% sure it's what you're looking for but it was quick and I'm about to leave work. :)

It's similar to the Lightning Strike build I'm planning, but I plan on Dual Wielding for the block and innate attack speed / damage bonus.
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HeimdallsWrath wrote:
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This is something I drummed up really quickly. I only used 105 points but you get:

219% life
83% attack speed
411% increased physical damage
~100% armour

Not quite as defensive as I prefer, and I'm not 100% sure it's what you're looking for but it was quick and I'm about to leave work. :)

It's similar to the Lightning Strike build I'm planning, but I plan on Dual Wielding for the block and innate attack speed / damage bonus.


That's the old tree, you know that right? The new tree changes some nodes that you have, mainly in marauder, from phys atk dmg, to melee phys atk dmg, which makes them useless for LS

I only went to Ranger side to grab the pierce nodes, and its not really that inefficient considering you can grab some health and proj dmg nodes as well. Pierce is really important with LS, i'd recommend you consider doing the same thing, unless you want to use Pierce gem, I just didn't want to.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Last edited by Edzilla#0339 on Dec 18, 2015, 10:48:00 PM
my personal lightning strike build is going pretty well and im happy with it.

basically the usual. hc viable with enough dps to get it done.

standard dual wield build, 196% life, 5 endurance charges, IR. pick up WoE for all it offers at its cheap cheap price.

my links- LS-mulstrike-fasterattacks-WED-PPAD-PTL replace mulstrike with added fire for the insane kiting situations.


i really like the new lightning strike. used to you need lmp/gmp, quality for pierce and more pierce if possible. now it gets PLENTY of projectiles and it just works and feels great without having to modify it for more AOE. i imagine when i get my lightning strike 20quality the aoe will feel perfect to me.

i remember 100% peirce was sometimes TOOO much aoe lol. like when i ripped in a seawitch beyond map.
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Edzilla wrote:
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HeimdallsWrath wrote:
https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAFey5HcSCivCwq76nvTZlTYTZR36HaqmUqSd4eoTvBS107drBeu9AoCcgiiIs-yFVXhPApgd13D026BpVYSEB5_xLFE0YkbyfMn46UhRxDjyCB9l86hj4689-dqxjF9d-wQcbqoE6AwB-mvJaEPByqfcykFUaOFnzrKonL62NhVLZYTkO6wmXeQmW5FHvDlBHFCBfPz38jM_2SMRYWGPG2IPMPC3GrsT22L3-Crc-plc64fJFMZ7-jzWSTeMyCWxGcmy18qIA8B9o8q9sC2EEs3zZ

This is something I drummed up really quickly. I only used 105 points but you get:

219% life
83% attack speed
411% increased physical damage
~100% armour

Not quite as defensive as I prefer, and I'm not 100% sure it's what you're looking for but it was quick and I'm about to leave work. :)

It's similar to the Lightning Strike build I'm planning, but I plan on Dual Wielding for the block and innate attack speed / damage bonus.


That's the old tree, you know that right? The new tree changes some nodes that you have, mainly in marauder, from phys atk dmg, to melee phys atk dmg, which makes them useless for LS

I only went to Ranger side to grab the pierce nodes, and its not really that inefficient considering you can grab some health and proj dmg nodes as well. Pierce is really important with LS, i'd recommend you consider doing the same thing, unless you want to use Pierce gem, I just didn't want to.


Yeah, I forgot to mention it since I was in a rush getting ready to leave work like I said. But of all the nodes I took - 2 of them have melee physical in it. So instead of 411% you get 373. Everything else still stands. I even accommodated the Duelist start to ignore the melee physical nodes and grabbed armour / evasion instead. Main reason for using it was because the left / bottom-left was mostly unchanged and you can see the total stats on the side. Also, you can use the points I didn't use in your build on Blade of Cunning by Duelist for another 42% damage with swords to make up for that lost damage.

Who needs a Pierce gem when you have a Lioneye's Vision chestpiece? It's a potential 7L with its innate level 15 pierce, and has 1,400 - 1,500 armour and 80 - 100 life. Factor in a 20% Lightning Strike gem and you have 104% Pierce chance.

Correct me if I'm wrong, your build gives:
180% life
2.6% life regen (can't support Blood rage without degen)
32% armour
24% armour and evasion
91% attack speed
275% increased physical damage
50% projectile damage
36% elemental damage with weapons
40% pierce chance

361% total damage 86% of which doesn't apply to the main strike, therefore greatly hurting your single-target damage.

That's roughly 40% life, 3-4% life regen (Blood rage without degen), 80% armor / armour + evasion, anywhere from 10 - 50% less increased damage (not including the bonus from strength), for 40% chance to pierce (which can be made a redundancy), 8% attack speed, 1.6% life leech and 1 - 2 jewel sockets depending on how you use those extra points I left for you to spend.

In fact, if I were to run Blood Rage on my build, I would have competitive net life regen to yours, 12 - 16% MORE damage from Frenzy Charges depending on allocation of Masters, 15 - 20% increased attack speed (.25% attack speed per quality gem bonus), and 1.2% life leech.

I'm not a huge theory crafter as I'm way too lazy for the more important math and I'm ignorant of a lot of the mechanics. That's why I don't typically post my builds here, but I'm just desperately trying to pass the time, so please correct me if I'm misinformed about any of this.
Last edited by HeimdallsWrath#1918 on Dec 19, 2015, 3:37:14 AM
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HeimdallsWrath wrote:
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Edzilla wrote:
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HeimdallsWrath wrote:
https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAFey5HcSCivCwq76nvTZlTYTZR36HaqmUqSd4eoTvBS107drBeu9AoCcgiiIs-yFVXhPApgd13D026BpVYSEB5_xLFE0YkbyfMn46UhRxDjyCB9l86hj4689-dqxjF9d-wQcbqoE6AwB-mvJaEPByqfcykFUaOFnzrKonL62NhVLZYTkO6wmXeQmW5FHvDlBHFCBfPz38jM_2SMRYWGPG2IPMPC3GrsT22L3-Crc-plc64fJFMZ7-jzWSTeMyCWxGcmy18qIA8B9o8q9sC2EEs3zZ

This is something I drummed up really quickly. I only used 105 points but you get:

219% life
83% attack speed
411% increased physical damage
~100% armour

Not quite as defensive as I prefer, and I'm not 100% sure it's what you're looking for but it was quick and I'm about to leave work. :)

It's similar to the Lightning Strike build I'm planning, but I plan on Dual Wielding for the block and innate attack speed / damage bonus.


That's the old tree, you know that right? The new tree changes some nodes that you have, mainly in marauder, from phys atk dmg, to melee phys atk dmg, which makes them useless for LS

I only went to Ranger side to grab the pierce nodes, and its not really that inefficient considering you can grab some health and proj dmg nodes as well. Pierce is really important with LS, i'd recommend you consider doing the same thing, unless you want to use Pierce gem, I just didn't want to.


Yeah, I forgot to mention it since I was in a rush getting ready to leave work like I said. But of all the nodes I took - 2 of them have melee physical in it. So instead of 411% you get 373. Everything else still stands. I even accommodated the Duelist start to ignore the melee physical nodes and grabbed armour / evasion instead. Main reason for using it was because the left / bottom-left was mostly unchanged and you can see the total stats on the side. Also, you can use the points I didn't use in your build on Blade of Cunning by Duelist for another 42% damage with swords to make up for that lost damage.

Who needs a Pierce gem when you have a Lioneye's Vision chestpiece? It's a potential 7L with its innate level 15 pierce, and has 1,400 - 1,500 armour and 80 - 100 life. Factor in a 20% Lightning Strike gem and you have 104% Pierce chance.

Correct me if I'm wrong, your build gives:
180% life
2.6% life regen (can't support Blood rage without degen)
32% armour
24% armour and evasion
91% attack speed
275% increased physical damage
50% projectile damage
36% elemental damage with weapons
40% pierce chance

361% total damage 86% of which doesn't apply to the main strike, therefore greatly hurting your single-target damage.

That's roughly 40% life, 3-4% life regen (Blood rage without degen), 80% armor / armour + evasion, anywhere from 10 - 50% less increased damage (not including the bonus from strength), for 40% chance to pierce (which can be made a redundancy), 8% attack speed, 1.6% life leech and 1 - 2 jewel sockets depending on how you use those extra points I left for you to spend.

In fact, if I were to run Blood Rage on my build, I would have competitive net life regen to yours, 12 - 16% MORE damage from Frenzy Charges depending on allocation of Masters, 15 - 20% increased attack speed (.25% attack speed per quality gem bonus), and 1.2% life leech.

I'm not a huge theory crafter as I'm way too lazy for the more important math and I'm ignorant of a lot of the mechanics. That's why I don't typically post my builds here, but I'm just desperately trying to pass the time, so please correct me if I'm misinformed about any of this.


You're right - I dont think exchanging all the stats you lose to gain 100% chance to pierce is worth it. I will stick with 55% you can get from 20% LS + Poacher's Aim jewel. Maybe even the chest that you mentioned, though I think Lightning Coil / Belly of the Beast is a better choice for hardcore.

I will be going with this. It has enough Life regen to maintain Blood Rage and has nearly 200% max life. It has more damage then your route, and doesn't waste damage on melee phys nodes (which are really not worth anything, since you should never be in melee range, unless you're doing single target damage, with a single target skill.)'

Tree has:

444% damage (WED+Phys+proj)
99% IAS

195% max life
4.4% life rgen
146% armor
84% evasion

Links will be:

LS + BM + WED + MS + PPAD + FA/Innervate

Frenzy + BM + Fortify + Melee Physical Damage + Life Leech + FA

Haste + Hatred + Vaal Haste + Vaal Haste

Leap Slam + BM + Faster Attacks + Enduring Cry

Cwdt + Blood Rage + Chaos Golem + Warlord's Mark

Not sure Innverate is better than Faster Attacks. Gives you roughly a 60% chance to shock with multistrike. Seems good.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Last edited by Edzilla#0339 on Dec 19, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
you can run lightning strike off 1 .4% attack damage leech node in duelist area. no reason to use BM in your attack links.

innervate is bad and useless. your not going to be shocking bosses.

except for the smart way.... vaal lightning strike.... use it
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lone500 wrote:
you can run lightning strike off 1 .4% attack damage leech node in duelist area. no reason to use BM in your attack links.

innervate is bad and useless. your not going to be shocking bosses.

except for the smart way.... vaal lightning strike.... use it



Really wasn't going to use LS for bosses, that's what the single target skill is for. Shocking really is powerful on large packs or magic packs.

I would run the Mana attack leech, but since I want too run hatred and haste, i'd have to take the reduced mana reserve nodes as well and that would be even more points to spend. Think it's worth it?
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
never saw where u have a single target skill.

no reason to try to shock packs they should die instantly anyway. if it takes u 2 hits to kill an enemy shocking them will still prob take 2 hits to kill them unless u were nearly 1 shotting them in the first place which it would be better to just buff ur attack and 1 shot them instead of trying to shock them.

not sure why u would want haste. brings nothing to the build. i just use hatred/herald of ash or switch out ash with AA

and the vaal lightning strike.... yeah its 10+ seconds of permanent shock plus damage from the skill on top of that. if your not using it your gimping your build big time.
Last edited by lone500#7088 on Dec 20, 2015, 2:03:12 AM
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lone500 wrote:
never saw where u have a single target skill.

no reason to try to shock packs they should die instantly anyway. if it takes u 2 hits to kill an enemy shocking them will still prob take 2 hits to kill them unless u were nearly 1 shotting them in the first place which it would be better to just buff ur attack and 1 shot them instead of trying to shock them.

not sure why u would want haste. brings nothing to the build. i just use hatred/herald of ash or switch out ash with AA

and the vaal lightning strike.... yeah its 10+ seconds of permanent shock plus damage from the skill on top of that. if your not using it your gimping your build big time.


I'll try Hatred + HoA. I was just thinking that more attacks would = more shocks, so haste would be great. How is your LS doing? Are you HC? how far along are you?

I was planning to run the Frenzy setup on my links list above, as my single target. I might just run a Vigilant Strike, and use LS as my single target too.

Vaal LS seems pretty strong, i'll use it when I get it.

Level 90 tree.

I'll update the main thread as I get higher, just rerolled HC after all my pals playing standard quit, so i'm a little behind :P
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