shotgun support gem

30% less cast speed
50% reduced cast speed
30% less projectile damage
30% less attack speed
50% reduced attack speed
cannot be linked with spell echo
5 extra projectiles

all projectiles can hit the same target
projectiles fired randomly in an arc 50 degrees in the direction fired.

gem level 1
30% less cast speed
50% reduced cast speed
30% less projectile damage
30% less attack speed
50% reduced attack speed
5 extra projectiles

gem level 20
20% less cast speed
30% reduced cast speed
30% less projectile damage (no change based on level)
20% less attack speed
30% reduced attack speed
8 projectiles

opopopop on specteral throw, could give them some 500k+ single target

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Rowanbladex wrote:

opopopop on specteral throw, could give them some 500k+ single target

oh right, attacks.... adding attack speed reduction stuff.

i'd go crit wand build with barrage + shotgun + gmp + coc + artic breath if I got a 6 link add chain for trash mobs and lmp for bosses lol... so many projectiles.... stand close enough so that all hit and unlesh the pretty ice explosions.... 14 of them all hitting 1 target!



don't care if it would work or not :p

mechanically that should work, but with both a less and reduced attack speed multiplier, good luck getting teh same speed you'd normally want on it.

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svnhddbst wrote:

mechanically that should work, but with both a less and reduced attack speed multiplier, good luck getting teh same speed you'd normally want on it.

maybe quill rain instead if it's to slow

boss killer, its not speed that matters, its dps. That dps would be huge, one hit would demolish.

Use it with a burn skill and the stacking burns so they all work together....

i'm seeing a lot of "really strong" but not a lot of "it would be over powered" which is good.

for the record, it's a support for making things more like ice crash "near op one shot" but a really slow shot.

Cool concept. Inspired by stygian attack style maybe? ;)

Depending on your cast / attack speed it is clearly OP from the beginning and ultra-OP at level 20.
(The following calculated damagevalues are considering speed and are multipliers for DPS not hit damage)

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gem level 1
30% less cast speed
50% reduced cast speed
30% less projectile damage
30% less attack speed
50% reduced attack speed
cannot be linked with spell echo
5 extra projectiles

We assume all 6 (1+5 extra) projectiles hit a target. => 600% damage (or 500% more)
Now multiply with 0,7 (less cast / attack speed). => 600% * 0,7 = 420% damage (or 320% more)
Multiply with 0,7 again (less projectile damage) => 420% * 0,7 = 294% damage (or 194% more)

Like already mentioned: depending on your cast / attack speedmodifiers the overall damage changes.
0% increased cast / attack speed: multiply with (1,0 - 0,5) / 1,0 = 0,5 (reduced cast / attack speed from gem). => 294% * 0,5 = 147,00% damage (or 47,00% more)
10% increased cast / attack speed: multiply with (1,1 - 0,5) / 1,1 = 0,5454... (reduced cast / attack speed from gem). => 294% * 0,54545454... ~ 160,36% damage (or ~60,36% more)
50% increased cast / attack speed: multiply with (1,5 - 0,5) / 1,5 = 0,6666... (reduced cast / attack speed from gem). => 294% * 0,66666666... = 196,00% damage (or 96,00% more)
100% increased cast / attack speed: multiply with (2,0 - 0,5) / 2,0 = 0,75 (reduced cast / attack speed from gem). => 294% * 0,75 = 220,50% damage (or 120,50% more)

Or x% increased cast / attack speed (without shotgun) leads too 294% * (1,0 + x - 0,5) / (1,0 + x) damage. This -100% for the more multiplier.

And this was only level 1

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gem level 20
20% less cast speed
30% reduced cast speed
30% less projectile damage (no change based on level)
20% less attack speed
30% reduced attack speed
8 projectiles

We assume all 9 (1+8 extra) projectiles hit a target. => 900% damage (or 800% more)
Now multiply with 0,8 (less cast / attack speed). => 900% * 0,8 = 720% damage (or 620% more)
Multiply with 0,7 (less projectile damage) => 720% * 0,7 = 504% damage (or 404% more)

Like already mentioned: depending on your cast / attack speedmodifiers the overall damage changes.
0% increased cast / attack speed: multiply with (1,0 - 0,3) / 1,0 = 0,7 (reduced cast / attack speed from gem). => 504% * 0,7 = 352,80% damage (or 252,80% more)
10% increased cast / attack speed: multiply with (1,1 - 0,3) / 1,1 = 0,7272... (reduced cast / attack speed from gem). => 504% * 0,72727272... ~ 366,55% damage (or ~266,55% more)
50% increased cast / attack speed: multiply with (1,5 - 0,3) / 1,5 = 0,8 (reduced cast / attack speed from gem). => 504% * 0,8 = 403,20% damage (or 303,20% more)
100% increased cast / attack speed: multiply with (2,0 - 0,3) / 2,0 = 0,85 (reduced cast / attack speed from gem). => 504% * 0,85 = 428,40% damage (or 328,40% more)

Or x% increased cast / attack speed (without shotgun) leads too 504% * (1,0 + x - 0,3) / (1,0 + x) damage. This -100% for the more multiplier.

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i'm seeing a lot of "really strong" but not a lot of "it would be over powered" which is good.

for the record, it's a support for making things more like ice crash "near op one shot" but a really slow shot.

It's probably the most op shit gem I have ever seen. "really strong" is a big lie "it would be over powered" is a lie too since it is more than simply over powered it is... <<insert insults here, a lot of them>>.

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Mystereye wrote:

i'd go crit wand build with barrage + shotgun + gmp + coc + artic breath if I got a 6 link add chain for trash mobs and lmp for bosses lol... so many projectiles.... stand close enough so that all hit and unlesh the pretty ice explosions.... 14 of them all hitting 1 target!



don't care if it would work or not :p

Ever heard of diminishing returns? The more projectiles you have the less impact flat added projectiles have, it's additive. But the damage penalties from GMP and LMP work multiplicative. It's like combining LMP + GMP before version 2.0, one gem actually lowered overall DPS of the other one, with barrage and this shotgun gem it get's even worse.