Mjölner Gavel , Chain + 1 on minion

Mjölner Gavel said "SKILLS chain +1 "

Raise Spectre is a skill, and it can linked with support Gem "Chain" and get the chain effect.

However, I cannot get the effect from Mjölner Gavel on my minion,
is it a bug? and i was totally believe in the word " SKILLS chain +1 " and i spend a lot to prepare for this build.... however, the chain effect didn't work on my little minion

Please help

If it is "Your skills chain + 1 " i will understand "

But it is " SKILLS chain +1 " ......

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skyweb wrote:

If it is "Your skills chain + 1 " i will understand "

But it is " SKILLS chain +1 " ......

It works exactly like every single other +skill to xyz gem in the game.

It has to be in the slot of the item to work.

If it said your skills chain +1 it would imply that it was global, not the other way around.

Sorry , it works with all the skill no matter it is socketed in Mjölner ro not.
e.g. fire ball in your golves


However, not in the minion, even socketed in the Mjölner

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skyweb wrote:

Sorry , it works with all the skill no matter it is socketed in Mjölner ro not.
e.g. fire ball in your golves


However, not in the minion, even socketed in the Mjölner

Okay let be more clear.

Mjonlner causes your skills to chain +1 when you cast it.

You cannot chain a spectre gem because the spectre gem just summons a monster, you cannot "chain" a summon.

It works when you attach a chain gem to the spectre because your attaching a "chain gem" to the specter and giving it the ability to chain.

The real difference here is that "causes skills to chain" and "supported by Chain" are two completely different things.

Raise Spectre is exactly a skill, the " SKILLS chain +1 "

indicate the skill itself gain the ability to Chain ( Raise Spectre )
it should be no different to the socketed support gem.

we obtain skills by equip gems,
how can u say skills is skill, but gem is not skills?

Besides that, I think adding this property to minion should not be a big problem,
it just give Mjonlner a new way of playing

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skyweb wrote:

Raise Spectre is exactly a skill, the " SKILLS chain +1 "

indicate the skill itself gain the ability to Chain ( Raise Spectre )
it should be no different to the socketed support gem.

we obtain skills by equip gems,
how can u say skills is skill, but gem is not skills?

Besides that, I think adding this property to minion should not be a big problem,
it just give Mjonlner a new way of playing

To clear it up even further.

skills chain +1 doesn't indicate "skills gain the ability to chain.", the skill needs the ability to chain to begin with.

The SKILL GEM "spectre" cannot chain, because when you cast it. All it does is summon a monster, obviously if I use the skill gem that is summon zombie/skeleton/any melee attack/ect skills chain +1 doesn't make sense right?

Sometimes the monster you summon from spectre happen to have a ranged attack that also happen sometimes have the ability to chain. But it does not naturally already chain, thus you attach the chain gem.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Minion

Neither passive skills nor stats from your other equipment affect minions unless they specifically say "Minions _____".

Minions have their own damage and their actions are treated completely separate from the summoner's.

Theses two bolded should help you even further, because item "skill gem+1" like I explained also only adds chain to skills you are casting. Thus when you cast fireball +1 chain, when you cast spectre +1 chain. But spectre does nothing because all it does is summon a monster, there is nothing to chain. But the MONSTER itself when it attacks may be able to chain.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Sire_of_Shards

Now what you are thinking of is something like this
Socketed Gems Fire 4 Additional Projectiles
Socketed Gems Fire Projectiles in a Nova

Now if I raise a monster that has a ranged attack that is an projectiles, it adds +4 projectiles and it fires in a nova.

Raise Spectre is a skill gem that cannot chain (for obvious reasons). The Chain gem works with Spectres because it enhances the skills used by the Spectre. Chain +1 for you =/= Chain +1 for minions summoned by one of your skills.

/Edit
Damn, RagnarokChu was faster and better.

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skyweb wrote:

Raise Spectre is exactly a skill, the " SKILLS chain +1 "

indicate the skill itself gain the ability to Chain ( Raise Spectre )
it should be no different to the socketed support gem.

we obtain skills by equip gems,
how can u say skills is skill, but gem is not skills?

Besides that, I think adding this property to minion should not be a big problem,
it just give Mjonlner a new way of playing

The only way it would work is if the mod on the mjolner said "minions skills chain +1 times".

Minion skills are treated differently than other skills. An example, Raging spirits has the tag "spell" yet it will not benefit from spell dmg modifiers. For the most part, it has to specifically say "minions" on the mod for it to apply to your minions.

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Caliginosus wrote:

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Damn, RagnarokChu was faster and better.

Yeah, beat me too. lol