Corrupted items with White Socket(s) change color at Vorici Bench (Why?!)

I never knew this (nor did my entire Guild of new and old players), but apparently items with any White Socket(s) change color when you use Chromatic Orbs + Vaal Orbs to recolor corrupt items.

This game mechanics behavior should not be happening! If an item has any corrupted mod on it, or its sockets, changed due to corrupting it, that is how the item should stay.

Now my corrupted 6-L Carcass Jack has gone down in value as a result of this bug (it looks like a bug to me), so to compensate for my loss of a valuable White Socket, please fix!



Thank you for looking into this.
HeavyMetalGear

As far as I know;

Not a bug.

When you recolor something on Vorici's bench, it guarantees X sockets of a certain color (always the same place starting from the top left socket) and rerolls the rest. It's always been like this.

You can't use the logic that corrupted sockets shouldn't be allowed to change color when at the same time you are using a mechanic that lets you change corrupted socket colors. Your argument makes no sense.

This is not a bug. Using Vorici's bench, you can modify sockets on unmodifiable items. That's what the bench allows you to do.

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mark1030 wrote:

You can't use the logic that corrupted sockets shouldn't be allowed to change color when at the same time you are using a mechanic that lets you change corrupted socket colors. Your argument makes no sense.

This is not a bug. Using Vorici's bench, you can modify sockets on unmodifiable items. That's what the bench allows you to do.

Pardon my late reply.

Excuse me, but my logic makes a lot of sense. Just because the mechanic at Vorici's Bench allows for a player to change a corrupted item's socket colors does not mean it makes sense for white sockets to change color, too, for reason being that the socket is already white, therefore, there can be no other better color than a white socket. That is why white sockets should not be overwritten with a poorer re-color when using Vorici's Bench to color a corrupted item.

Again, my logic makes a lot of sense; it is the logic behind the mechanics at Vorici's Bench that does not make any sense. At least with the other options you can utilize to change a corrupted item's properties like sockets or links, you are bound to get the results you want for that six-socket or six-link, yet when re-coloring a corrupted item's sockets, you have no chance of ever getting a white socket again because you cannot re-corrupt an item after it has already been made corrupt. Instead, your re-colored corrupted item through Vorici's Bench is made worse by overwriting any white socket(s).

P.S. Just because game mechanics are the way they are does not mean they cannot be changed for improvement to make more sense or function better. Therefore, a fix (I am sure) can easily be implemented where when utilizing Vorici's Bench to re-color a corrupt item, all colors except white sockets are colored.

My point is when players take a chance with Vaal Orbs to either improve their items, or worse, risk/sacrifice their items for something worse, they deserve to have the mods they received on their corrupt items permanently (in this case, white sockets) even if you use Vorici's Bench to re-color.

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Vipermagi wrote:

Path of Exile rarely prevents you from making stupid decisions. If you Divine an item, it will also reroll any maxed rolls - even if every roll is max. If you reroll socket colours, then that is precisely what happens.

Corruption is, on average, a bad thing. That's kind of the goal behind it.

Re-coloring my corrupt item was not a 'stupid' decision; it was a 'necessary' decision (difference). Re-read the very end of my recent reply to mark1030

P.S. Corrupt items are not bad when you roll something beneficial on them like I did; what is 'bad' are mechanics like what Vorici's Bench does to undo a corrupted mod like a white socket.

Furthermore, Divine Orbs are beside the point. Divine Orbs are a type of Orb that can be used several times until you receive the desired results you want. Vaal Orbs are a type of Orb that can only be used ONCE with no chance of receiving the desired results you want should you receive bad mods, that which is why whatever mods you roll with a Vaal Orb should remain that way and nothing more or nothing less.

Then you shouldn't be allowed to change socket colors at all.

I, for one, am grateful they added the ability to change sockets on corrupted items. You want your cake and to eat it too, as the saying goes.

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mark1030 wrote:

Then you shouldn't be allowed to change socket colors at all.

I, for one, am grateful they added the ability to change sockets on corrupted items. You want your cake and to eat it too, as the saying goes.

Your remarks are moot at best because they are beside the point.

Saying I should not be allowed to change socket colors at all is just a shortcut around trying to refute my argument just because I proved the mechanics behind Vorici's Bench make no sense by changing white sockets to some other color.

You seem to be implying that the mechanics behind Vorici's Bench act like a Vaal Orb itself (by making an item worse with no chance to receive a white socket again that you already had) and that they should remain that way when that is not what the mechanics behind Vorici's Bench were designed to do. Therefore, it looks like a bug/something unintended to me.

P.S. Players pay up more than enough Vaal Orbs AND Chromatic Orbs to re-color their corrupt item(s). Therefore, players should not have to pay the price of having their corrupted white socket(s) changed, too, when they have already paid the price in Vaal Orbs and Chromatic Orbs to re-color their corrupted item(s), and when they have already paid the price of taking a risk with a Vaal Orb in the first place on their item(s).

Furthermore, the words 'white sockets' does not come up AT ALL on the Wiki page for the Vorici Master, as seen here: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vorici,_Master_Assassin

If Vorici's Bench was designed to change white sockets, too, from corrupt items, it would have been noted/documented by now, and it is not, so what does that tell you?

Not even on the Wiki page for Vaal Orbs is such thing noted/documented, that if players roll white sockets and then uses Vorici's Bench to re-color a corrupt item with a white socket, the white socket will change to a different color.

The only source that can validate whether or not Vorici's Bench is intended to re-color white sockets from corrupted items, is a direct statement from GGG saying so, to which I have every right thereafter to question the logic behind the intention in the mechanics of Vorici's Bench regarding changing white sockets, because it does not make any sense.

White sockets getting rerolled by Vorici aren't in the wiki because you're the only one who doesn't seem to understand that reroll colors means exactly what it says. But the wiki is made by players, so you're free to include that if you think it would help other players.

The mechanics do make perfect sense. Reroll means roll again. Nowhere does it say that reroll only certain colors. The benefit of the bench isn't that it takes away all rng. It's that you can use it at all on a corrupted item. But we'll just have to agree to disagree on any implied warranties on using the bench.

I actually agree. You are all stating that it is obvious the game works how it works.
White sockets are one of the few good rolls when corrupting among many more bad ones. I think it's strange to get a penalty in not being able to re-roll the other sockets.

I think it would make a much nicer mechanic, creating the ability to more easily get all blue sockets on a str item for instance... Or even just to get your set of collored sockets you need while still being able to swap out gems in the white ones when it is usefull.

That way the item would be more versatile instead of being locked as it is, what to me, looks like the idea behind white sockets in the first place.

Also, in every other case corruption of an item can't be undone, why should it be any different with the white sockets.