Dom Runs: Solo or Group (aka GIMME MJOLNER!!!)
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Disclaimer: I feel like I've seen this question partially asked a number of times, but not with a focus on high-level, standard characters who already have good gear, good dps, and base wealth to invest a bit if needed.
EDIT: It should also be noted, that while I could simply buy a Mjolner or Ripper, I REALLY don't want to. First, I dislike spending that much money, and 2.) I almost never buy my gear. Only reason I've got a shavs is cuz it dropped. Same thing with Soul Taker, Prism Guardian, Void Battery, and all of my 6Ls... I like to pay the Iron Price, if you know what I mean. Background: Given the incoming unique nerfs, I'd like to spend time with my high-level standard toons trying to get some of these guys, while simultaneously rebuilding my supply of alts and chaos (down to nothing after rolling tons of 76 + 77 maps to stockpile lots of 78's). Desire: Identify the most reliable/efficient way to obtain valuable uniques (and ideally the t1 uniques of legend) and stockpile some rares for vendor recipe. Possible Solutions: Dom Party (6 man with 500/100 culler)
Pros
This is the usual solution for fast runners. Find a good Dom Party with a good culler. A good party is fast and efficient, and a dedicated MFer with legacy gear has more iir/iiq than you will (probably) PLUS you get the bonuses from other people.
Cons
- In a good party, rare collection for chaos recipe is kinda disrespectful of everyone's time. You know what you're there for and it ain't chaos... - Not all Party's are good. I've been in a ton of them, where runners are slow and don't get kicked, and people constantly vendor or id/vendor between tps... - If a high end item pops youre chance of getting it is 1 in 6. Meaning your chance of getting that Mjolner is 1/6 * Mjolner Drop Chance with Group/Culler IIR/IIQ Solo MF Mapping (350/73 + Div if you can remember/time it)
Pros:
Can be fairly fast if doing lower level maps.
You get the IIQ buff of the map roll. Less Tedium (possibly) than Dom Runs. Not reliant on finding a group. Can drop other maps etc and more opportunity for currency drops. Corrupted map farming can be considered more efficient due to sac frag drop as well... All drops are yours! If Mjolner Drops, ain't noone else getting it. But you only got your own IIR/IIQ...
Cons
Unless doing lowest level maps, harder to run solo MF without a build specifically BUILT for it, or without just accepting the survivability Sacrifice.
Usually lower IIR/IIQ on base gear + no Group bonuses. Boss is still best bet for stuff and (depending on map) can be awkward to get to. Getting that extra IIQ costs currency (either trans/alts/or alchs) Conceivable more dangerous than Dom, as you may get a bit of anything. Dom, while dangerous possibly (depends how much you sacrifice for IIQ/IIR) he's predictable. Solo Dom (350/73 + Div if you can remember/time it)
Pros
Screw you! I don't need no group. I'mma run Dom whenever I want! So what if I can't find a public Group?I AM the Group!!!
Your runs are as fast as you are. You can pick up what suits you in whatever time you want. Fast runners can be NEARLY as efficient as a mediocre group. EXTRAORDINARILY fast runners, can be nearly as fast as a decent group. All Drops are yours. If Mjolner Drops, ain't no one else getting it. But you only got your own IIR/IIQ...
Cons
Boring.
Even more boring without chatter. Possibly could slow down without pressure from group to pick up pace. Only have your own IIR/IIQ - Not even a map bonus. "Solo" Dom w/ client (420/81 +40/10 from client)
Pros
Screw you! I don't need no group. I'mma run Dom whenever I want! So what if I can't find a public Group?I AM the Group!!! Oh yeah, plus my alternate client toon.
Your runs are as fast as you are. You can pick up what suits you in whatever time you want. Fast runners can be NEARLY as efficient as a mediocre group. EXTRAORDINARILY fast runners, can be nearly as fast as a decent group. Can leave on primary toon dps equipment and only bring in culling toon on second phase, making this slightly safer. Because second toon don't need no dps, can push that IIQ/IIR a bit harder. If first toon is DPS GOD, DOM is frozen entire time anyway, making it super safe for culling toon. All Drops are yours. If Mjolner Drops, ain't noone else getting it. But you only got your toon's IIR/IIQ
Cons
Boring.
Even more boring without chatter. Dual Client is a bit... awkward at times. Possibly could slow down without pressure from group to pick up pace. Got to create and level second account (unless you already have one) Only have your own IIR/IIQ - Not even a map bonus. Not 100% sure this is "legal"... Maybe a gray area??? SO! After reading that HUGE wall of text, what says the community? Anyone tried all of the above and have anecdotal evidence to share? Anyone crunched teh numbers and have statistical evidence to share? Anyone want to opine about the pointlessness of struggling for advantage, as, after all, "RNG is RNG"? Have at it! Would be interested to see what you all think. |
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Tried all Ways and end up to go Solo with high MS-descent DpS-crazy MF. Got no perfect Gear or mirrored Ones but with around 100 IIQ and 200 IIR i feel its good Way to farm Domi Solo. Most of Time running to him is faster as first Phase of Fight. At the Start of Runs it can take up to 6 Portals to vendor all Rares for Alts but its ok. Mostly ends up with 3-4 Portals and that is best Time to not needed refresh Scepter Instance what also takes its Time.
But at least i do this for Alts and not for Uniqs, but they drop a Lot to!-) Trading DpS with Monsters for Loot will ever best Ratio!-)
Sitting in Town, flipping Items until all Gear is biS, and get fastly bored from running Maps instead of grinding Upgrades is no Resolution! |
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Running Fragments with a MF Char is much more efficient for Alts then Dominus.
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I think party farming is the best option of all above.
We had an 509 iir 167 iiq culler but after 7 hours of farming (one 20 min break) the most valuable stuff we found was some 10-20c item. I guess the stuff which is valuable has so low droprate, even with this insane mf... Every round had (multiple) unique loot, but most the time those were level 1 weapons, driftwoof wand and that claw omg or something even trash for leveling item, which can be outscaled by lower level rares. So basically the biggest value i got was a bunch of amulets, which i can trade for chaos recipe (yes im taht guy who slows the team down by picking them, but so what i rather prefer solid income instead of "luck") once i go down solo farm dom for the most common rare parts of the recipe, in which case i am allowed to stop at strongboxes and vaal areas... Last edited by krenderke#3861 on Jun 26, 2015, 8:28:40 AM
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I think you're right. Farming Sac Frags with MF is more efficient and I've dropped some awesome stuff doing it.
One, you want to get those midnights anyway, so it's not like it's a complete waste of time if you don't get a t1 unique. You'd be doing this anyway for the midnights. Two, it's faster per run than Dom. Solo Dom run takes me 3 minutes, most of which is the fight itself. I can clear a sac frag killing all mobs in 1-2. Only problem is if you run out of sac frags. Then you can either farm for them in high MF gear and rinse and repeat, or buy them (which is pricey. Also, remember, I HATE buying stuff). But yeah, I usually like doing sac frags. Last edited by prescben#7177 on Jun 26, 2015, 9:27:26 AM
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If I had the required hardware I'd multibox for "solo" 6 player dom runs. Sure, it's not close as fast as a regular 6 player party with decent runners, but all the loot is yours. You can take the time to collect the items for the chaos recipe and you usually have one or two uniques per run.
It's also legal as long as you don't send your mouse / keyboard input to multiple instances of the game (i.e. you have to controll each of your 6 clients seperatly). |
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