Physical Damage Conversions

Hello Everybody!

First of all, my math is not that great,
but I tried to make sense of it before posting, without success.


I'm using facebreaker, so physical damage is what I want to convert.

Avatar of Fire converts 50% of my physical damage into fire.

Chernobog's Pillar Shield converts another 25% physical damage into fire.

This far there are no confusion, I convert 75% of my physical damage into fire.

Physical to Lightning gem converts 50% of my physical damage into lightning damage,
50% of my lightning damage converts into fire because of Avatar of Fire.
Which means I get 25% physical damage converted into fire.

If I am not wrong, then this should give me an overall conversion of 100% physical damage into fire Damage.

Without the Physical to Lightning gem I should lose a conversion of 25% physical damage, which gets lost in outer space. When I link it though, it only gives me a very small amount of damage. My question is why?

Thank you //Myz
You're overthinking it. I assume you're using Infernal Blow? That skill converts 50% physical to fire. Combined with Avatar of Fire, that'd be 100% converted. The shield conversion is redundant. The Physical to Lightning is not helping you and taking up a gem slot.
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mark1030 wrote:
You're overthinking it. I assume you're using Infernal Blow? That skill converts 50% physical to fire. Combined with Avatar of Fire, that'd be 100% converted. The shield conversion is redundant. The Physical to Lightning is not helping you and taking up a gem slot.



Was going to edit and state that I am not using Infernal Blow, I currently have 75% physical converted to fire, which makes me lose 25% of all my physical damage, that's why I would want clarification on the physical to lightning gem conversion.
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Myzk66 wrote:
Without the Physical to Lightning gem I should lose a conversion of 25% physical damage, which gets lost in outer space. When I link it though, it only gives me a very small amount of damage. My question is why?


That's because all non-fire damage you deal is lost when you take Avatar. Physical to lightning converts the rest of your physical damage to lightning and adds some more on top of it, but avatar halves the lightning part.
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Last edited by raics#7540 on Apr 24, 2015, 1:48:37 PM
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Myzk66 wrote:
Physical to Lightning gem converts 50% of my physical damage into lightning damage,
50% of my lightning damage converts into fire because of Avatar of Fire.
Which means I get 25% physical damage converted into fire.

Conversion does not apply to other Conversion values, it applies to Damage.

100 Physical Damage
50+25% Phys to Fire
25% Phys to Lightning

50+25 = 75% to Fire: 100 * 0.75 = 75 Fire Damage
25% to Lightning: 100 * 0.25 = 25 Lightning Damage
100 - 75 - 25 = 0 Physical Damage

50% Lightning to Fire: 25 * 0.5 = 12.5 Fire
25 - 12.5 = 12.5 Lightning

75 + 12.5 = 87.5 Fire Damage
12.5 * 0 = 0 Lightning Damage


Phys-to-Light also grants a bit of Lightning Damage based on Physical. Let's say 25%:
100 * 0.25 = 25 Lightning Damage
25 * 0.5 = 12.5 Fire Damage

87.5 + 12.5 = 100 Fire Damage

Roughly the same as getting 100% Phys to Fire :P
Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Apr 24, 2015, 2:15:20 PM
Thank you Vipermagi, that's what I was looking for, can finally put this confusion to rest.

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