Herald of ice and item rarity

If i link herald of ice to item rarity the aoe explosions from shattering monsters are what add the extra rarity?

So this is only useful for killing packs of monsters? It can never be used to boost rarity when killing single target bosses right?

It would require atleast two targets standing next to one another and the explosion from shattering one of them killing the other. Or will it work shattering a single target monster too? Will that add the extra rarity aswell?

Local or not. It's not what i am asking.

The description is:

If you shatter an enemy, they explode and deal AoE cold damage to enemies near them

If i shatter a single enemy herald kicks in and that enemy explodes. Will iir gem work in this case? Or does herald need to splash a secondary target and kill it to benefit from the rarity?

HoI is a cold damage Spell that performs an additional AoE effect of shattering and hitting additional monsters.

So if a boss dies from the cold damage - whether or not it shatters - then I assume you would get the IIR.

I have an IIR gem attached to an Attack - Molten Strike - which is supplemented by the Hatred and Herald of Ash Auras/Spells. I have always assumed that no matter which of the three things got the kill, that my IIR was applying.

If the IIR gem doesn't apply that way, I'm prying that damn thing out and selling it.

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Vipermagi wrote:

You don't punch shit with Herald of Ice, you don't score the initial kill with Herald of Ice. Duh.
Herald doesn't get the kill -> Herald's Supports don't apply. If the AoE manages to kill anything, it applies.

Are you certain it's not the explosion itself that triggers iir gem if linked to herald?

If you shatter an enemy, they explode..

It's herald causing the enemy to explode. If i didn't use herald the enemy would just shatter without an explosion.

It sounded like it would work vs single targets too. As long as an enemy is shattered. This is very confusing indeed.

@skywalker

why are you confusing the OP? Vipermagi already explained how it works

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Skywalkerfx wrote:

So if a boss dies from the cold damage - whether or not it shatters - then I assume you would get the IIR.

you assume it wrong then

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I have an IIR gem attached to an Attack - Molten Strike - which is supplemented by the Hatred and Herald of Ash Auras/Spells. I have always assumed that no matter which of the three things got the kill, that my IIR was applying.

wtf are you talking about?

you get the kill either with molten strike or HoI explosion. In order to ge IIR bonus from support gem, you need to have the gem linked with the skill that makes the killing blow

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kompaniet wrote:

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Vipermagi wrote:

You don't punch shit with Herald of Ice, you don't score the initial kill with Herald of Ice. Duh.
Herald doesn't get the kill -> Herald's Supports don't apply. If the AoE manages to kill anything, it applies.

Are you certain it's not the explosion itself that triggers iir gem if linked to herald?

If you shatter an enemy, they explode..

It's herald causing the enemy to explode. If i didn't use herald the enemy would just shatter without an explosion.

It sounded like it would work vs single targets too. As long as an enemy is shattered. This is very confusing indeed.

shattering is unrelated to HoI. HoI does exactly what it it says - deal AoE damage on shattering an enemy. It obviously cant deal damage to a target that is already shattered (= caused the explosion). -> explosion from HoI did not kill any enemy -> on kill effect (IIR gem) cant apply