@GGG Limit Log Out Macros Only To Survive A Death

Right now there are many beneficial uses for a log out macro. On top of this the game has new content created for it with the log out macros in mind. Right now Log out macros do more than prevent death, they also make it possible to re-enter a situation in a refreshed state where you are no longer at a disadvantage due to poor decision making.

For example I can do Uber Atziri, use a log out macro if I see storm call, log back in, enter portal, wait for storm call to end then continue the fight. This provides an unfair advantage in similar fights like this. Not to mention the ability to instantly refill flasks
And such.

My suggestion is to balance the decision of allowing log out macros and creating content based around this decision by limiting its usefullness to only surviving a death.

Essentially like lab but for other boss fights.

1. You only get 1 portal for each map that has a high value target. Uber Atziri, The Guardians, Shaper, The Council. (You get the same portals as now for other map content)

2. You cant open portals on end act boss fights (Brutus, Merveil, Vaal, Dominus, Malachai). This emphasizes gear checking.

3. Flask charges only regenerate by killing monsters. They do not instantly regenerate upon going to town for absolutely no reason. (Removes the benefits of logging out upon a potential death other than potentially not dying of course. Also prevents cheese mechanics.) You get flask charges from killing things, that should be the only method of doing so.

This limits the benefits of a log out macro to 1 primary function. The 1 function that you GGG even allow these macros to exist in the first place. Saving a character from a potential death due to internet or poor coding related issues which would negatively impact the gameplay performance of players under specific circumstances (ground effects, power charges every x seconds, poor connection, ect)

Oh yes, that is all we need: to make FOTM builds even more viable than it is now and remove a chance to complete endgame content from another builds. Great!

Yeah go ahead and log out at atziri, there isn't an invisible stormcall bug that will kill you as soon as you reenter that room or anything. /s

There is, but you wouldn't know this.


GGG has no reason to do what you are stating here, while it works for content like the lab, the lab is a very specific piece of content that was designed with logouts not being possible, everything else in the game wasn't.

If you need to use a logout macro to play HC PoE you might as well go over to scrub core and call it a day. Beyond that, who seriously gives a shit. Use whatever the fuck you want if it's legal as everyone else has the same opportunity to use it.

Said it before, I'll say it again: I have never seen anyone employ a logout macro while playing PoE. I do know a lot of people die on HC (or at least they used to, can't imagine it has changed) every single day especially early in the leagues so if they are using these macros they are doing so ineffectively.

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Dos_Fafner wrote:

If you need to use a logout macro to play HC PoE you might as well go over to scrub core and call it a day. Beyond that, who seriously gives a shit. Use whatever the fuck you want if it's legal as everyone else has the same opportunity to use it.

Said it before, I'll say it again: I have never seen anyone employ a logout macro while playing PoE. I do know a lot of people die on HC (or at least they used to, can't imagine it has changed) every single day especially early in the leagues so if they are using these macros they are doing so ineffectively.

Almost all hc players use them. 95% of streamers do as well.

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Jgizle wrote:

Almost all hc players use them. 95% of streamers do as well.

Source of the numbers? Didn't think so..

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Jgizle wrote:

1. You only get 1 portal for each map that has a high value target. Uber Atziri, The Guardians, Shaper, The Council. (You get the same portals as now for other map content)

totally disagree

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Jgizle wrote:

2. You cant open portals on end act boss fights (Brutus, Merveil, Vaal, Dominus, Malachai). This emphasizes gear checking.

So you just open portal before the fight?

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Jgizle wrote:

3. Flask charges only regenerate by killing monsters. They do not instantly regenerate upon going to town for absolutely no reason. (Removes the benefits of logging out upon a potential death other than potentially not dying of course. Also prevents cheese mechanics.) You get flask charges from killing things, that should be the only method of doing so.

So you would have to go to act1 coast instead to gain charges before going back into the portal?


You didn't think it really through now, did you?

1. Of any of these this obe is more likely to be a possibility thab anything else. I mean they are already spreading lab mechanics into maps. Wont be too long before they limit your ability to cheese these key fights.


2. Guess you dont understand the point of 2 mate. If you cant open a portal in the boss fight you cant leave the boss fight without using a cheat log out macro, or logging out in game normally and risking an even more likely death. This prevents playing the game next to a portal as an instant escape mechanic increasing the likelyhood you will die from a poor mistake.

3. You can go anywhere and farm flask charges. But you have to waste some time to do it. Likewise you are assuming you will have a portal in all cases. You can run Lab for example, log out because Izaro about to knock your teeth in, and log back in and have to go get flask charges. In other cases this means you cant instantly refill flasks by using a portal.

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Jgizle wrote:

2. Guess you dont understand the point of 2 mate. If you cant open a portal in the boss fight you cant leave the boss fight without using a cheat log out macro, or logging out in game normally and risking an even more likely death. This prevents playing the game next to a portal as an instant escape mechanic increasing the likelyhood you will die from a poor mistake.

People currently using log-out macros probably aren't relying on a portal in a boss fight anyway.
People who are using portal will just have to start playing in a party then so after logging out, portal doesn't disappear. You could just open another client and just have it standing there safely.

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Jgizle wrote:

But you have to waste some time to do it.

Because everyone likes that, right?

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almostdead wrote:

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Jgizle wrote:

2. Guess you dont understand the point of 2 mate. If you cant open a portal in the boss fight you cant leave the boss fight without using a cheat log out macro, or logging out in game normally and risking an even more likely death. This prevents playing the game next to a portal as an instant escape mechanic increasing the likelyhood you will die from a poor mistake.

People currently using log-out macros probably aren't relying on a portal in a boss fight anyway.
People who are using portal will just have to start playing in a party then so after logging out, portal doesn't disappear. You could just open another client and just have it standing there safely.

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Jgizle wrote:

But you have to waste some time to do it.

Because everyone likes that, right?

I think you may have skipped the first paragraph in OP or you do not understand the reason why GGG even allows log out macros to begin with. These suggestions are flawed intentionally. Their only goal is to force log out macros to only be usuable to potentially escape death. Their not to prevent the use of portals entirely or to make flasks difficult to recharge. Their to prevent the benefits log out macros provide and the benefits that going to town gives you as a bonus of logging out.

Logging out when engaged in combat is cheating. Thats not the way the game is supposed to be played. I dont care if GGG allows this form of cheating, it is cheating nonetheless. Tell yourself what ever you want to believe to make yourself feel better for using it, it doesnt change anything.

If you use a log out macro when you are not having any issues with the game (random lag, desync, ect) you are abusing the intent of log out macros being allowed to begin with. It is a mechanic that is allowed to save you from a death in a situation you have no control over.