Let's start a giant Price check project/guide

Hello,
(Mods: This thread will be moved to price check forum and maybe even sticked only when we have finished it but for now let us discuss it in one of the 2 discussion forums.)

I will start it and let anyone give his knowledge, i am pretty sure a lot of you will be glad to help making this project become real.

Calculating price of an item in orbs is very difficult for new players, and even for old ones.
But In fact it's simple, you are going to need knowledge about every item and what kind of mods(properties) each item needs to have to be good. Good = higher price.
Generally, items(rare items) with a required level lower than 30 are worthless.

Unique items price and currencies prices(rates) are much easier to assimilate.

The most difficult thing to price check is going to be rare items, and here is where our project will start, we need to explain what are the mods needed for each kind of item.

Let me start with wands.
Wands needs to either have:

Increased spell damage%
Cast speed%
Spell crit%
Crit multiplier%

Or

attack crit%(local crit from 5 to 12%'ish)
Increased damage%
Added X-Y damage
Good attack speed

Now If a wand has this four mods(one or another) then it's probably going be a good item, if the wand has mixed mods from the 2 groups of mods then it depends on what it has(good cast speed with great attack dmg% is not going to change an item) if it has 2-3 or those four mods it's probably a good item aswell.


And you are going to check 2 things:

1. What base item do you have:
http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/weapon

An imbued wand is better than a quartz wand.

2. What mod tiers(can't be changed) and rolls(can be changed with divine orbs) do you have:
http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/prefixmod
http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/suffixmod

A mod is better than another: Spell Damage +65% is better than Spell Damage +26%.

Those are 2 different tiers. What are rolls?
First mod is: Incanter's(higher tier)

If you apply a divine orb you can change the value from 60 to 69 Spell Damage +%
69 is a good roll, 60 is not.
Second mod is: Adept's ( low tier):
From 20 to 29 Spell Damage +%
20 is bad roll
29 is good
26 is average roll.


Note: beware of hybrid rolls that can confuse you. example: the prefix " Mage's" gives
Spell Damage +(25 to 29)% ;AND
Base Maximum Mana +(20 to 22)
So if you have a wand with +63% Spell Damage and +21 mana, you can bet this +63% isn't an Incanter's prefix(who can vary between 60 and 69)
It's in fact the mod(prefix):
-Mage's (+25 to 29% SPell damage) +( 20-22 man)
AND
- remove from 63, the number 25 to 29, you find: +(34 to 38% Spell Damage) => Prefix: Scholar's

You item had at least 2 prefixes. (rare items)

When you master this knowledge you can go check selling threads on trading forums or simply poe.xyz.is and check wands with similar mods than the one you have, find out about their average price and set a price for your wands.

Now let's find about all other types of items.

♦Wands: DONE ( can be expanded later ofc)
♦Bows: Not done yet.
♦Claws: Not done yet.
♦Daggers: Not done yet.
♦One hand axes: Not done yet.
♦One hand maces: Not done yet.
♦One hand swords: Not done yet.
♦Scepters(maces): Not done yet.
♦Staves: Not done yet.
♦Two-Hand axes: Not done yet.
♦Two hand maces: Not done yet.
♦Two hand swords: Not done yet.

Then comes armous: Not done yet.
♦AR ARMORS
♦EVA ARMORS
♦ES chests
♦Hybrid armors
♦Boots (EVA/AR/ES/HYBRIDS)
♦Glovers (EVA/AR/ES/HYBRIDS)
♦Helmets (EVA/AR/ES/HYBRIDS)
♦Shields (EVA/AR/ES/HYBRIDS)

And we have
♦Jewelry
♦Uniques: really easy to price check.
♦orbs/currency rates: easy to explain.


Your resources:
1. Poe.xyz.is / Poexplorer
2. Base weapons: http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/weapon
3. Base armours: http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/armour
Mods:
4. Prefix mods: http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/prefixmod
5. Suffix mods: http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/suffixmod

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While making this thread i checked a price check guide made by SKTRain ( http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/757912 ) And the only thing about it is that it contain a lot of texts and only few would read it. SO let us stay in the same spirit as SKTRain move but let's make it clearer.
Who is going to explain good mods on other kind of rares?

bump for the guru

Your signature claims to name you as the "founder" of price check forums.

Yet your first line basically says, "leave this thread in general because price check forums are pointless"

Then as i read the thread, the premise makes me understand to expect an indepth price checking tool or community, helping with the task of finding out prices for rare items etc. But all i see is you describe what mods are useful to an item, then pointing towards xyz for people to go find out prices themselves. Im struggling to get the point of this thread.

In other words, this looks more like a guide to what is a good or bad item, more than a price checking tool.

Armor/Es armor

You need

a]
Shield roll % shield ar roll and another % shield ar roll
It is good
Now add High tier Int/resistances


b] Armor roll % armor es roll % armor es roll

c] armor+shield +%shieldarmor

Prices are 2-10 ex for non linked

30-500 for 6linked

Best Is have 3res with good % roll and es roll

If I did wrong just tell me to delete my post

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adania wrote:

Your signature claims to name you as the "founder" of price check forums.

Yet your first line basically says, "leave this thread in general because price check forums are pointless"

Then as i read the thread, the premise makes me understand to expect an indepth price checking tool or community, helping with the task of finding out prices for rare items etc. But all i see is you describe what mods are useful to an item, then pointing towards xyz for people to go find out prices themselves. Im struggling to get the point of this thread.

In other words, this looks more like a guide to what is a good or bad item, more than a price checking tool.

Well imo items are the most important thing to master before starting to assimilate price and values of items. Of course there are other things to know like:
What are teh items who are "in vogue", which are going to be nerfed, which are map only drop, who are good for some builds.. which blue ones are good bases for crafting.

http://s18.postimg.org/8c8t7x549/screenshot_473.png



As for who is the founder.. Who cares? And no i what i meant by my message is:
Price checking items are for price check forums and discussing a giant guide can happen here.. Tbh i might want to move it but since there are 4 price check forums then we are probably going to miss price checkers from 3 different leagues ( since the thread can only be in one forum)

This will be out of date a week after it's finished. Wasted effort.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

This will be out of date a week after it's finished. Wasted effort.

Nope a wand with:

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INEXFadeXFHONOR wrote:

Increased spell damage%
Cast speed%
Spell crit%
Crit multiplier%

Or

attack crit%(local crit from 5 to 12%'ish)
Increased damage%
Added X-Y damage
Good attack speed

Now If a wand has this four mods(one or another) then it's probably going be a good item, if the wand has mixed mods from the 2 groups of mods then it depends on what it has(good cast speed with great attack dmg% is not going to change an item) if it has 2-3 or those four mods it's probably a good item aswell.

Will always be true.

Prices fluctuate between many factors:
-Ladder or non ladder
-Sc or Hc
-Point of time (Start/middle/end of ladder/before possible nerfs/after)
-Supply and demand
-Current FotM build

You will have to specify prices for all factors if you want this to be the go to price check guide.
Good luck with it :D

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Pyrokar wrote:

Prices fluctuate between many factors:
-Ladder or non ladder
-Sc or Hc
-Point of time (Start/middle/end of ladder/before possible nerfs/after)
-Supply and demand
-Current FotM build

You will have to specify prices for all factors if you want this to be the go to price check guide.
Good luck with it :D

I have almost everything here:

http://s18.postimg.org/8c8t7x549/screenshot_473.png :D

As you can see in the picture, items are the biggest part.
Let's start here.
And when this knowldge is acquired we can start checking actual prices (which fluctuate a lot)

General guidelines to price rare items if you are totally clueless:

1 Good Desirable Roll = 1-10 Chaos
2 Good Desirable Rolls = 1-2 EX
3 Good Desirable Rolls = 3-19 EX
4 Good Desirable Rolls = 20+ EX
5 Good Desirable Rolls = 50+ EX
6 Good Desirable Rolls = 100+ EX

NOTE 1: Bad rolls on desirable stats ruins exalt/eternal crafting, hence it may lower the price.

NOTE 2: The number of open stat slots effect the price. If more desirable rolls can be added with exalts, then it is good/attractive.

On Rare items with 3+ Good Desirable Stats:

4 linked = add 2 chaos
5 linked = add 4 EX
6 linked = add 20 EX

4 off colors = add 1-2 EX
5 off colors = add 3-4 EX
6 off colors = add 10 EX