Anyone know the complete formula to calculate burning damage?

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Autocthon wrote:

Damage dealt * (Sum of applicable increased damage effects) * .2 for 4 seconds.

Burn damage is not spell damage (IIRC).

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ChaoticLemon wrote:

Assume my initial hit deals 100 base fire damage from a spell, and it crits.
Crit multi is 150%
I have 50% increased fire damage, 50% increased spell damage, 50% increased burn damage.
Now anyone tell me how much burning damage per second after all these modifiers?
Please give me the whole formula and the result, thanks!

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ChaoticLemon wrote:

TBH I first thought yours is the correct one, but this means %increase fire damage is calculated TWICE in final burning damage. First in calculation initial hit, then burning damage. There is no other damage modifier or skills like this, so I really don't think it is the correct answer.

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ChaoticLemon wrote:

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Autocthon wrote:

Damage dealt * (Sum of applicable increased damage effects) * .2 for 4 seconds.

Burn damage is not spell damage (IIRC).

You clearly did not answer my question -.- I want COMPLETE FORMULA.

TBH I first thought yours is the correct one, but this means %increase fire damage is calculated TWICE in final burning damage. First in calculation initial hit, then burning damage. There is no other damage modifier or skills like this, so I really don't think it is the correct answer.

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raics wrote:

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ChaoticLemon wrote:

TBH I first thought yours is the correct one, but this means %increase fire damage is calculated TWICE in final burning damage. First in calculation initial hit, then burning damage. There is no other damage modifier or skills like this, so I really don't think it is the correct answer.

It's the correct one. It's true that the same modifier can't apply to the same chunk of damage twice, but it is not the case here, initial hit and burning from ignite are different damage instances, even though they are connected.

'Increased physical damage' on puncture also works like that. Now, these mechanics were all implemented in that dot patch, but fire resistance was always 'applied twice' on ignite, and yes, on 75% resistant enemies you really do only 1,25% of initial damage per second.
Ever wondered why ignite was always a joke when enemies inflicted it on you? Simple, initial hit needed to cause serious ignite would squash you like a mosquito.

And it's not really open to discussion, it hasn't been just tested, the mechanics are well-known and were provided/confirmed by devs.

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Autocthon wrote:

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ChaoticLemon wrote:

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Autocthon wrote:

Damage dealt * (Sum of applicable increased damage effects) * .2 for 4 seconds.

Burn damage is not spell damage (IIRC).

You clearly did not answer my question -.- I want COMPLETE FORMULA.

TBH I first thought yours is the correct one, but this means %increase fire damage is calculated TWICE in final burning damage. First in calculation initial hit, then burning damage. There is no other damage modifier or skills like this, so I really don't think it is the correct answer.

^See raics^

And that is the full formula. Since the only two effects that are applicable are burn and fire damage effects I don't see why you'd need the whole (1+Fire Damage Increas+Burn Damage increase). You obviously surmised what bonuses should be effecting it in your original post.

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raics wrote:

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ChaoticLemon wrote:

TBH I first thought yours is the correct one, but this means %increase fire damage is calculated TWICE in final burning damage. First in calculation initial hit, then burning damage. There is no other damage modifier or skills like this, so I really don't think it is the correct answer.

It's the correct one. It's true that the same modifier can't apply to the same chunk of damage twice, but it is not the case here, initial hit and burning from ignite are different damage instances, even though they are connected.

'Increased physical damage' on puncture also works like that. Now, these mechanics were all implemented in that dot patch, but fire resistance was always 'applied twice' on ignite, and yes, on 75% resistant enemies you really do only 1,25% of initial damage per second.
Ever wondered why ignite was always a joke when enemies inflicted it on you? Simple, initial hit needed to cause serious ignite would squash you like a mosquito.

And it's not really open to discussion, it hasn't been just tested, the mechanics are well-known and were provided/confirmed by devs.