Auras stacking overpowered/need balancing?

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Zeshin wrote:

We are touchy because we disagree with you?

Fair enough. Then people should discuss the actual mechanics instead of posting childish replies.

This is Closed Beta after all, the time and place to discuss the game mechanics... and my OP stands. Instead of taking a wide knife to many individual skills IMO they should look closer at the effects aura stacking has on the game mechanics.

You don't have to agree, but I know there are many that do.

Considering this is the first post that I've seen. In regards to Auras being too powerful (that you can stack 3...). I'm not too sure I understand what you mean by, "there are many that do".

What EXACTLY is the problem with it?

Do you want to mash pots the entire time? Cause that sounds rather boring to me. If my character cannot maintain "equilibrium" without constantly pushing external sources to balance me out again. That seems rather odd.

It does limit our builds, if you want to add on another aura you have to push everything up so that when you do reach a point you can use it you end up reaching that balance again. You give up points, gem spots, and mods to be able to push to use more and more auras. You cannot just simply slap on all the aura's.

I am currently running my first aura stacking temp. and from my current experience it is a huge PAIN in the ass. I almost dont even want to deal with all the "reduce mana/increase mana" nodes and skip it, but I'm building it to try it out, yes it's a good build, but not no were near overpowered. The build is almost more annoying and requires a lot more forethought that most other easy builds.


tl;dr
Stacking aura's requires you to sacrifice a lot more than you think

I think the game should be balanced so that it's impossible to have 'too much mana'. What I mean is, even if you have a huge pile of mana and mana recovery, there will still be productive ways to spend it all (e.g. by jacking up your skills with a silly number of support gems, or slapping on yet another aura). Big mana builds generally have to sacrifice a lot of life and/or ES, so it's good for build variety if this is potentially a worthwhile trade even at high levels.

I don't see a problem with stacking per se - combining skills like that is a big part of the fun of build design. The main issue with auras is that there's no ongoing mana cost. Even before you run any auras, you need to recover mana as fast as you spend it to be sustainable in combat. But then once you've reached this point, you can happily reserve all of your mana except for however much you need to fire your main attack a couple of times, and you don't really lose anything as a result. So the opportunity cost of auras is quite low.

I think it would be a good idea to balance this out with more 'panic button' skills that you only need to cast under special circumstances, but have a high mana cost. That would give players an incentive to keep a more significant mana buffer for emergencies.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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What EXACTLY is the problem with it?

Do you want to mash pots the entire time? Cause that sounds rather boring to me. If my character cannot maintain "equilibrium" without constantly pushing external sources to balance me out again. That seems rather odd.

It could/would promote greater diversity in character builds, as simply spamming skills will be less viable… and thus encourage better skill combinations. It will also make partying more appealing too (in order to synergise auras with others).

So mashing pots is boring… but spamming the same skill unlimited isn’t?

no

You are in the wrong genre if you find spamming skills boring.

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peachii wrote:

Is it really hurting you to have people stacking auras?

I don't understand the cry to nerf spells, isn't the whole point of the game to figure out spell combinations what work for you so you can feel like a god running around killing things?

People do a LOT of work to be able to run with multiple auras, to have the life and mana regen and appropriate gear to do it. Who cares if they want to spend hours and days finding the gear to do it.

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