ES, GS, or GTFO

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The most fun, and the most OP setup i've played and continue to play is a bow shadow.

Its level 50 at the moment and has mediocre damage due to the fact that im still using the same bow i had at level 28 (also has some very shitty gear):

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I use lightning arrow as aoe dmg and currently yields about 550 dps (with Lesser multiple projectiles)

I use elemental hit for strong single target dps, it currently does about 850+ dps.

I use: clarity, disc, wrath, anger, grace auras.

I still have 40% of mana to play around with.

I have 12 points wasted in the witch ES nodes as i'm making the switch to evasion.

Let me tell you about my experience with CI and evasion.

i had over 2k ES and about 20% evasion and i was getting my ass handed to me in ruthless, i had no idea what i was going to do to fix the problem.

After much Passive skill tree planning i decided to switch to evasion, i only had enough regrets + respec points to redistrubte 10 skill points.

Those 10 points where enough to get to me 50+ evasion and i immediately felt the effects, i lasted a considerable amount more, and i still kept disc aura on (gives + 400 ish ES atm)

with more regret orbs and upgraded gear i feel as if i could take anything on in the game.

As it stands i 1 one shot normal monsters in merciless.

Havent done Merveil yet (being busy with UNI) but let me tell you about Brutus (merciless):

Step 1: ran to within 1/2 screen away from brutus.

Step 2: Projectile weakness + 3 stacks of frenzy

step 3: ran back a little so i was 1/2 screen away still

Step 4:Hold elemental arrow,

Results: he died before he could cover 1/2 the distance that was between us, never got a hit off on me at all.

- i got that with below mediocre gear, non-melee, no CI, no ground slam, life + evasion (with Disc aura on top)


I'm telling you my little anecdote to show you that ES isnt the be all and end all of defense and that there is an alternative non-melee damage that doesnt rely on CI and or ground slam.

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aimlessgun wrote:

Well you can get high DPS on an elemental bow ranger that doesn't have CI, but you probably already know that and are talking about marauders. (also even bow rangers really like using EV/ES gear and Discipline to get some of that sweet sweet ES, so they're not really 'life based').

PS: who the hell is getting 25k DPS without diamond up. I call bullshit unless it's like the most ludicrously well geared witch in the beta or something.

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MonopolyLegend wrote:

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tramshed wrote:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAQEAANTk5gJlKoYHa5TVB4wTLAr8Kq8SIY8jFqmfNhcVF9YX7NacIP7-jikZ4xMphsCPMZNJ9zeXCEQ3xCN_PSq--EcSK3RHPIy5SVDK3VDjAjBTT2zCVgyrrVs8BoxbecGXXVWy5mibpftyleineE0Bun3biS6ECf4phNccEomDkySKhXQ9k4cffpbVBHqY9Yarm29CSpyDYtuh5oQ1ojeodqgveomodrQ9qg4KMKoWdgaqQzF8qkgB86tlVdKysMcxt6LQarnWRGG7r9-gvEfe4MDmWG_Jeg_6ygGufcvVF8_NEqyOzbEgV9E0PdfRSC0o0z_we9SLxKvUth9U1YyD9NYrD7jZbENg3SNReN20fxHfAxXU5K_cDuaQpHDw3Uh080d3GPf0myj6zqWa_KU1FA==

This works pretty damn well.

2h melee physical damage = melee. I know that works well; I'm looking for non-melee, non ES.

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tramshed wrote:

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MonopolyLegend wrote:

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tramshed wrote:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAQEAANTk5gJlKoYHa5TVB4wTLAr8Kq8SIY8jFqmfNhcVF9YX7NacIP7-jikZ4xMphsCPMZNJ9zeXCEQ3xCN_PSq--EcSK3RHPIy5SVDK3VDjAjBTT2zCVgyrrVs8BoxbecGXXVWy5mibpftyleineE0Bun3biS6ECf4phNccEomDkySKhXQ9k4cffpbVBHqY9Yarm29CSpyDYtuh5oQ1ojeodqgveomodrQ9qg4KMKoWdgaqQzF8qkgB86tlVdKysMcxt6LQarnWRGG7r9-gvEfe4MDmWG_Jeg_6ygGufcvVF8_NEqyOzbEgV9E0PdfRSC0o0z_we9SLxKvUth9U1YyD9NYrD7jZbENg3SNReN20fxHfAxXU5K_cDuaQpHDw3Uh080d3GPf0myj6zqWa_KU1FA==

This works pretty damn well.

2h melee physical damage = melee. I know that works well; I'm looking for non-melee, non ES.

So you dont want to attack them directly, or use spells? What class are you going for?, teletubby?

On a more serious note, if you dont devote something to a type of defense and you dont have minions, youll just get destroyed.

EDIT: A thought, albeit an obvious one, play a shadow.

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Torin wrote:

So basically you want Marauders to be the only class to play? You want them to have best survivability, best melee and best ranged. Lol.
My marauder blood magic caster is already better then my witch/shadow casters. Yes he will not do as many criticals with frozen pulse but I didn't notice that many of them with my CI cold caster shadow as well. And I can always turn on Righteous fire for massive damage both around him and as a bonus to his spells.