Make Awakened Elemental Damage with Attacks worth the price.

Change

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Elemental Damage From Supported Skills Cannot Be Reflected

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Highest Elemental Damage Type From Supported Skills Cannot Be Reflected

Let's say your skill linked to this does:
- 20K cold damage
- 5K fire damage
- 9K lightning damage
You will be immune to reflected cold damage from all sources.

This thing is sold for 19~20 div on level 6. This change will make it worth the price. Otherwise, all this does is +6 more elemental damage than the regular 20/20 version.

uh....what?! You do realize that "elemental damage cannot be reflected" refers to ALL elemental damage right?

Your change makes no sense. Clearly you don't understand the gem, or the line. With your change, it would be unimaginably worse and the reflect line would be completely useless. Any elemental build doing multiple elemental types is going to die from reflect of ANY elemental damage.

It is precisely that valuable BECAUSE of that line. And that line doesn't exist on the 20/20 gem.

Hilarious....

You also don't need a lvl 6....the reflect mod comes on the lvl 5 gem. Level 6 is a lucky corruption of a very valuable gem, done ONLY for min/maxers that have unlimited currencies.

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BurakUeda#0565 wrote:

Change

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Elemental Damage From Supported Skills Cannot Be Reflected

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Highest Elemental Damage Type From Supported Skills Cannot Be Reflected

I don't think the precedent this would set in terms of support gem design is justifiable.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

uh....what?! You do realize that "elemental damage cannot be reflected" refers to ALL elemental damage right?

OP wants socketing the support gem anywhere to grant global immunity to reflected damage of one specific type regardless of which skill is doing the damage that gets reflected.

Which I think is a particularly dangerous design concept...

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Sarno#0493 wrote:

OP wants socketing the support gem anywhere to grant global immunity to reflected damage of one specific type regardless of which skill is doing the damage that gets reflected.

Which I think is a particularly dangerous design concept...

wrong....re-read what you quoted and what he wrote again. "Highest damage from supported skill", not global.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

wrong....re-read what you quoted and what he wrote again. "Highest damage from supported skill", not global.

Good advice.

Follow it yourself before handing it out to others, please.

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BurakUeda#0565 wrote:

You will be immune to reflected cold damage from all sources.

@cowmoo275 One does not speak of "from all sources" when talking about one skill only.

Think about it. You believe they're advocating for a "buff" which objectively weakens the support gem. It is clear that your interpretation is not the corrent one. Try to re-read the OP again, in its entirety, with a fresh perspective.

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Sarno#0493 wrote:

Think about it. You believe they're advocating for a "buff" which objectively weakens the support gem. It is clear that your interpretation is not the corrent one. Try to re-read the OP again, in its entirety, with a fresh perspective.

lol come on, are you serious?

Change "Elemental Damage FROM SUPPORTED SKILLS cannot be reflected" to "Highest Elemental Damage type FROM SUPPORTED SKILLS cannot be reflected".

I read exactly what he wrote. He is the one not understanding the mod, and you are trying to put words into his mouth. He even literally wrote "The only thing Awakened Elemental" gives you is +6 elemental damage. He clearly doesn't understand reflect immune at all.

Even if you take his next line into account, you'd still need the gem socketed to every single skill, because THEY WOULDN'T BE SUPPORTED now would they? So what exactly would this change? Because you can already do that with the existing mod.

Maybe read and respond to what is written without trying to put words into a stranger's mouth for them? Multiple times in the same post he expressed little understanding of the gem, its value, and the mod in question. He mentions lvl 6 cost, he mentions comparing it to 20/20, he mentions reflect incorrectly, AND he describes the gem wrong. Why should he get the benefit of the doubt of completely writing his entire post to mean something else?

The explosive VALUE of the awakened gem IS the reflect mod, over its 20/20 counterpart. He got that most basic concept completely wrong. And here you are trying to re-write everything he said because you think I was the one who interpreted it wrong lol?

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

Change "Elemental Damage FROM SUPPORTED SKILLS cannot be reflected" to "Highest Elemental Damage type FROM SUPPORTED SKILLS cannot be reflected".

I read exactly what he wrote. He is the one not understanding the mod, and you are trying to put words into his mouth.

10/10 trolling accusing me of "putting words into his mouth" in the same breath you apply emphasis that wasn't there.

It is the Highest Damage Type, from Supported skills, that you are globally immune to damage reflection for.

There is a reason they phrased it as they did.

Had they said:

"Highest Elemental Damage Type Cannot Be Reflected"

Then the intuitive interpretation would be that on a per-hit basis, the game calculates the highest damage type and then dynamically affords immunity to that type (presumably for that hit only).

So they instead said this:

"Highest Elemental Damage Type From Supported Skills Cannot Be Reflected"

The extra words are there to govern that it is the supported skill's highest damage type you are globally immune to reflected damage for.

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You were overly quick to read the OP, mocked them for it, and now you're riding on confirmation bias and your ego is leading you to insist that everyone other than you is a moron.

Have even a shred of humility and try re-reading the OP, in full, again.

You are wrong. It happens. Be an adult, take the 'L', and move on.

"This thing is sold for 19~20 div on level 6. This change will make it worth the price. Otherwise, all this does is +6 more elemental damage than the regular 20/20 version."
-OP

Sarno...you are so much better than this.

But okay, ignore every word the OP wrote himself and castigate ME for responding to it.

OP's post is actually ambiguous, you're both kind of right. You could read it as "the highest damage type done by the supported skill, that damage type cannot be reflected" but also as "only the highest damage type done by a specific hit of the supported skill is not reflected." And honestly, given how terrible this suggestion is in the first place, I'm not confident that I could say with anything near 100% certainty which one OP meant. Regardless of which one they meant, HELL NO. Both ideas are bad.

I mean... for Kuduku's sake, OP actually seems to think that GGG controls the market value of everything in a trade economy? What? It's impossible for anything being traded to not be worth the market price; the literal definition of value is "what someone will pay." If the gem wasn't actually worth 20d, you would be able to buy them for less than that. OP isn't just misunderstanding the game's mechanics here, they are failing to understand how money works.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

"This thing is sold for 19~20 div on level 6. This change will make it worth the price. Otherwise, all this does is +6 more elemental damage than the regular 20/20 version."
-OP

Sarno...you are so much better than this.

But okay, ignore every word the OP wrote himself and castigate ME for responding to it.

Okay. They used hyperbole. Wow, I've never seen that before on the internet.


I have explained both why they phrased "Let's say your skill linked to this does:" that way and why they said "You will be immune to reflected cold damage from all sources."

You have not.

And now you are reaching - and I think you know that.

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I want to ask you one honest question. Let's say we never hear from OP again. They posted on the forum, and 30 seconds later a meteor slammed into their house. They're gone. We will never get confirmation from them, one way or the other.

You've already added BurakUeda#0565 and Sarno#0493 to your list of idiots. If another person engages with the thread - and just hypothetically - they agree with me & OP, will you be right with all three of us wrong? If two people do so? Five? Ten? What's your 'magic number' where you'll stop and actually reconsider whether you are right?

(I don't think you're an idiot, btw. I do think you're a bit slow to genuinely reconsider your stance, though.)