why I get keep one shooted ?

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gageris wrote:


You have mediocre defenses for a t16. For t5 that would be decent.

A lot of your "defense" also comes from the map mods you run. And you said you are doing Expeditions - some of the mods there are very dangerous/even deadly. Expedition mods in combination with dangerous map mods can go through even very thick def layers, so 20k armour and 78% all ress is a cake.

If you have a map with double elemental dmg mod, -max ress, less armour, and on the expedition mods you took extra monster damage, etc. - this alone is enough to create 1shot situations. Now also maybe you are running Searing exarh and you took "nearby enemies gain X% of phys as extra fire". These mods alone might seem as insignificant, but the combination of those will 1shot you, a lot.

Taking Elemancer and Golem commander would give you +2 max golems and would increase their buff effect, plus more importantly would free up necklace slot


I said before I got one shooted NOT IN MAPS with -max res, -x armour or 40% reduced block, I avoid this map mods together cause they are bugged and you will be one shotted there by everything

I won't take this cause its 4SP waste and shaper of storms give too much dps to not take it

its much better than neck slot
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Last edited by dynia6666#0969 on Aug 27, 2023, 3:28:20 AM
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gladiatorpie wrote:
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DeLJaDe wrote:
It's hilarious that a guy comes here with his relatively tanky vanilla elementalist, a perfectly reasonable build to make by a casual player and the other guy shows his Lightning coil triple gem flask pathfinder, with physical taken converted to elemental, to say "you have to be like meeee".
OP, you took a good effort to make a balanced character, but, glancing blows is something you would take if you really want to go hard on effect on block synergy, it would be better if you got to around 50% normal block. In my experience, 5k HP is not enough for this kind of character, especially since you skip bastion of the elements. Getting higher damage also means you get to spend less time around problematic mobs giving them less chances to highroll you. All in all, characters without evasion and suppression tend to feel less tanky, especially in maps.
But, the most important thing is to consider the map you are running. If it's not one of the "ignore everything, don't interact with the game" builds, and is something that you've made, you need to recognise it's weaknesses and avoid the things you are weak to or at least pay extra care.
Spell suppression in particular seems rather problematic to me. It is good as a defense layer for the right side of the tree, but characters like OP's should not feel obligated to take it, in my opinion.



Not at all what I said. The guy thinks he is tanky but isnt. It was an example of what serious tankiness looks like. Nothing more.

Plenty of ways to skin the defensive cat in this game that arent that build. Pathfinder is just one way.


stop trolling this build got perfect items for build that should avoid ONE shot, I never said I want face tank everything, the main reason this game is bugged I got one shotted, where the fuck I mention I want face tank bosses like shaper or maven ?
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Last edited by dynia6666#0969 on Aug 27, 2023, 3:31:51 AM
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DeLJaDe wrote:
It's hilarious that a guy comes here with his relatively tanky vanilla elementalist, a perfectly reasonable build to make by a casual player and the other guy shows his Lightning coil triple gem flask pathfinder, with physical taken converted to elemental, to say "you have to be like meeee".
OP, you took a good effort to make a balanced character, but, glancing blows is something you would take if you really want to go hard on effect on block synergy, it would be better if you got to around 50% normal block. In my experience, 5k HP is not enough for this kind of character, especially since you skip bastion of the elements. Getting higher damage also means you get to spend less time around problematic mobs giving them less chances to highroll you. All in all, characters without evasion and suppression tend to feel less tanky, especially in maps.
But, the most important thing is to consider the map you are running. If it's not one of the "ignore everything, don't interact with the game" builds, and is something that you've made, you need to recognise it's weaknesses and avoid the things you are weak to or at least pay extra care.
Spell suppression in particular seems rather problematic to me. It is good as a defense layer for the right side of the tree, but characters like OP's should not feel obligated to take it, in my opinion.


that why I leave this game until they fix it, I played some time ago with even less defences and never get one shotted BY NORMAL MOBS
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Stop complaining. With my crappy div~3 character I can clear delirium + wrath of the cosmos altars easily without dying (as long as I avoid any chaos mods that is, not that hard). Haven't died a single time from level 95 onwards and I'll be level 97 soon.

Of course, there are many other ways to not die in a single hit, you gotta look them up.


stop telling me what to do, I will do what I want to do
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Oh its a troll. Well I feel dumb now.
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gladiatorpie wrote:
Oh its a troll. Well I feel dumb now.


troll that game is shit and you get one shotted by normal mobs ? =D

I already uninstaled this shity game lol

there is much better games out there like elden ring, stellaris baldur 3 etc lol
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Last edited by dynia6666#0969 on Aug 27, 2023, 12:56:32 PM
armour is too low to be relevant for most of the content, and your molten shell is probably pretty weak with that amount of armour

no cwdt molten shell setup, it's not good on left click

no vaal molten shell

not a single source of phys taken as ele

no suppression

you have decent block, but it's with GB and GB is a bait, should never be taken on any build that doesnt utilize something like aegis aurora

no evasion

not immune to ignite

bad mods on body armour and wrong gloves base

no stun immunity

what makes you think you're supposed to be tanky? I'm barely comfortable with 50k armour, 50k evasion, ailment immunity, stun immunity, 100% suppression, 30% of phys taken as ele and 2600 regen per sec

and what content are you running? this build would die to both exarch and eater altars
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Last edited by auspexa#1404 on Aug 27, 2023, 1:40:27 PM
I love that you think you have a perfect build to avoid one shots, yet get one shot. That should tell you right there it's not as good as you think. Your effective health pool (EHP) is too low. 1k regen means nothing if you hit 0 life, which can happen when your EHP is as low as yours.

Your armor is low
Glancing blows is bad for this toon
Your overall phys mitigation is low (see armor as well)
You're taking full hits from spells without suppression


There is more, but you've already ignored anyone and everyone that's tried to help.
hoho that armor.
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auspexa wrote:
armour is too low to be relevant for most of the content, and your molten shell is probably pretty weak with that amount of armour

no cwdt molten shell setup, it's not good on left click

no vaal molten shell

not a single source of phys taken as ele

no suppression

you have decent block, but it's with GB and GB is a bait, should never be taken on any build that doesnt utilize something like aegis aurora

no evasion

not immune to ignite

bad mods on body armour and wrong gloves base

no stun immunity

what makes you think you're supposed to be tanky? I'm barely comfortable with 50k armour, 50k evasion, ailment immunity, stun immunity, 100% suppression, 30% of phys taken as ele and 2600 regen per sec

and what content are you running? this build would die to both exarch and eater altars


lol dude I got BIS items in terms on defense
evasion in armor build lol xD xD
ignite can suck my balls in 1,4k regen
no need any supresion when I get +3 max res
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