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I farm T16 maps every league start on a 1 ex budget.
Then I do all the Invitations, including the Feared for my Atlas Points at around 3-5 ex.
If you think you need 30 ex to do yellow maps you're probably playing a very overpriced build like Righteous fire or something.

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Deadandlivin wrote:

I farm T16 maps every league start on a 1 ex budget.
Then I do all the Invitations, including the Feared for my Atlas Points at around 3-5 ex.
If you think you need 30 ex to do yellow maps you're probably playing a very overpriced build like Righteous fire or something.

With full account of necromancers, sure. Necro is the polar opposite of OP's problem, it is underpriced ascendancy for its potential.

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Uncybob wrote:

The last few patches have turned this game into an elitists play ground. After years of enjoyment now the casual player can't get to the end game except though endless grind and exorbitant cost. As one other put it, and I paraphrase, "I feel like I'm being punished for not being part of the moneyed elite."

Even the mid tier maps are a struggle now unless you have 20 or 30 exalts. why did monsters get a heath buff and we got a damage nerf? It's no fun dying and its no fun having to grind endlessly to keep up with streamers who seem to have an endless cash supply to fund their exorbitant builds.

In fact it now seems that if you don't have some expensive exotic build you're
without a snow flakes chance in hell of getting to the end game.

Enough.

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Every basic strategy out there yields 5-7exalts an hour. You can literally farm you end game build in a day.

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xaeror35 wrote:

Every basic strategy out there yields 5-7exalts an hour. You can literally farm you end game build in a day.

How exactly is this supposed to help anyone? If you wanted to help, could have explained at least one "basic strategy" in detail:). And if not, what goal did you pursue with this?

Maybe I am missing something, but that kind of profit is not about just playing the game, it involves either trading or crafting, and both of these involve 3rd party tools (or running dozen browser tabs) in turn. Calling 3rd party tools "basic" kinda confirms OP's point about elitists play ground.

Pick a mechanic, efficiently run it and sell the desirable items.

Expedition - Logbooks, Reroll currency in bulk or gamba yourself and sell the Rogcrafts and lucky gwynnens.

Breach - Pair with Betrayal, upgrade and sell all breachstones, sell 60x breach rings for 100% defence grasping mail or the dex stacker one.

Legion - Timeless Jewels, sell the upgraded 5 way fragments

Harvest - if not using the cabal(tft) sell any desirable meta gear you've crafted, just glance at PoE Ninja and sell shit that 80% of the sheep are playing.

Ritual - High tier bases and uniques, need to buy ritual vessels to do properly and make use of rerolls

Delve - Bulk resonators/desirable fossils, also can use key finds to craft meta gear like harvest, +2 minion wand pretty easy when delving for example or 6/7l minion helmets.

Temple - Setup temples with Tier 3 gem room, double corrupto. Secondaries are legion room, tempest room, item upgrade room. Sometimes a key unique is valuable can focus that one too. This is really fast and reliable too and easy currency.

Essence/Conqs/Synthesis/Einhar/Beyond/Eater/Searing/Delirium are all about efficient clear, you just setup whatever for these then blast don't stop just loot high value and leave the rest.

Making currency in PoE is far far easier than most players think it is, they basically run 2 maps an hour spend the rest of the time searching the web for efficiency currency strats. Just choose any strategy actually focus on it then blast.

Don't pick up low value shit, a vast majority of rares, don't do the chaos recipe, don't sell items for <5c, corrupt popular items for meta builds with good outcomes.

It isn't Elitist just because some players have played long enough to have the experience but "fishing" for an OP strat is the #1 thing not to do. Youtube is a lie guys and you are their commodity if you want to make bank come up with a credible plan and try it out, most of them work because most players just play they don't give a shit.

Edit: Had to come back to say players that measure their gameplay in exalts per hour are a blight btw and a perfect representation of players will optimise the fun out of any game. You should pick a strategy you enjoy, understand how to natively leverage it without thinking about it then just have fun playing the game and the currency rolls in by itself.

If you setup a display of your networth on the screen I don't know what to say aside from good luck :p everything else would be rude

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Draegnarrr wrote:

You should pick a strategy you enjoy, understand how to natively leverage it without thinking about it then just have fun playing the game and the currency rolls in by itself.

Yep, that's the way. And strategies by themselves cannot be defined elitist of course, it is the attitude. People who post along the lines of "I have great success here, so any gamedesign criticism is invalid" do their beloved game no favor (and no credit).

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Deadandlivin wrote:

I farm T16 maps every league start on a 1 ex budget.
Then I do all the Invitations, including the Feared for my Atlas Points at around 3-5 ex.
If you think you need 30 ex to do yellow maps you're probably playing a very overpriced build like Righteous fire or something.

"overpriced Build" bro every build should work SSF with 0 investment to start, the reality is that most stuff doesnt scale well enough to start with 0 currency.
also summoners are OP as hell and already scale without investment well enough, so you really cant make a point from your perspective.
dude has an account full of witches only kek.

that being said for OP, there are multiple league start builds than can do all content even on SSF , SSF hardcore is a thing afterall that multiple ppl play, you may wanna check SSF / SSF hardcore builds to know what kinda builds to play.

i especially mention SSF cause you cant trade at all, so your build cant do much uniques, meaning they need to scale well enough on rares.

OP propably thought he could pick whatever skill and than play easily to red maps without much effort, works on some skills but on most skills it doesnt work cause they are horrible balanced or their dmg scaling just sucks ass.

so in the end, imo your post is pointless, i dont consider myself an elite personally, i barely farm 50ex per league cause im a full time student, i still did a couple challenges , killed maven, shaper, elder, sirus and stuff.
this game propably isnt for you.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

You should pick a strategy you enjoy, understand how to natively leverage it without thinking about it then just have fun playing the game and the currency rolls in by itself.

Yep, that's the way. And strategies by themselves cannot be defined elitist of course, it is the attitude. People who post along the lines of "I have great success here, so any gamedesign criticism is invalid" do their beloved game no favor (and no credit).

The problem is one of experience, experienced players get frustrated when inexperienced players come in and try to change things without putting a similar effort in to learning in the first place.

Like for example I deal with this when players talk about build viability and HC, is it elitist that I check whether they have any experience of what they are talking about before I consider their response? Some would argue yes but I can't see the point on opinions from people who don't play the mode at all except for if its about what keeps them from playing the mode.

That extends to currency earning too and in this particular case the OP's statement that it requires 20-30ex to clear yellows is useless hyperbole that requires the scathing response it gets, it isn't elitist to mock that because its simply untrue and only comes about from players seeking to blame an external source for internal problems.

Experience is everything you can blast reds for <100c every league, even expedition, if you have experience which you get from committing to the game and seeking to improve. Knowing this first hand makes it hard to just ignore grasping statements about currency requirements.

Its the same thing that makes many of us roll our eyes whenever someone posts about the game being balanced around the 1% which just ignores how easy the game is for the 1%. If it was balanced around that percentile the experience would be absolutely horrendous for regular players and the truth is it isn't.

Its just got a high learning requirement to excel which is a primary appeal for PoE vs other titles, like why I enjoy X3.

Note this isn't a white knight post GGG make a mess of balance pretty much constantly and there are suggestions from players struggling that are absolutely valid. Just keep it within your own margins of play and everyones much happier talking about the issues and telling the genuine elitists to fuck off when they are giving the common players a hard time. OP needs build advice not this post just a simple I want to play X how can I optimise.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

That extends to currency earning too and in this particular case the OP's statement that it requires 20-30ex to clear yellows is useless hyperbole that requires the scathing response it gets, it isn't elitist to mock that because its simply untrue and only comes about from players seeking to blame an external source for internal problems.

Maybe you are right, I have forgotten my time at yellow maps by now, because I just respec existing 90+ characters, not level new ones from scratch.